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little mouse
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Dec 18 2012, 2:24pm
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Not so long ago there was one forum member
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who predicted one part of the Azog/Thorin plot.
He said that Thorin will think that Azog died in the battle of Azzanulbizar and later when we see the Dwarves climbing on the trees, Azog will reveal himself and Thorin won`t believe his mortal enemy is alive.
So, watching this scene on the big screen, I was laughing and thinking about you my fellow TORN member and I`m looking forward to your new predictions
And yes, the movie was awesome, and I also liked non book scenes (Radagast was great).
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R00ster_Sauce
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Dec 18 2012, 2:32pm
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I had the pleasure of seeing the Hobbit on opening day with my lovely wife at the local cinema in 2D 24 FPS. Here are some of my initial thoughts as I watched:
* The inclusion of "old" Bilbo was a little jarring for me since he looked quite a bit older than he did in LOTR but once it went to him providing V.O. for the prologue it was great
* I thought the prologue was really good but I hope we get to see more of a thriving Dale
* I started to see a lot of motion blur during the prologue something that for me just got worse as the movie went along. I don't know if that was a product of the 48 to 24 FPS conversion or what but it was very noticeable by both my wife and I.
* Being fans of both the book and the LOTR movies I didn't think the 1st half dragged as many critics said. However, it was a noticeably long time before they left Bag End.
* Martin Freeman is an awesome Bilbo
* Would have liked to see more of the battle at Moria but I understand the flow would have suffered.
* Azog looked horribly out of place and cartoon-like. My wife described him as "puffy"
* A lot of the CG looked out of place in general. Very disappointing
* The bunny sled chase across the plains looked absolutely horrible. Kind of like a Saturday Night Live skit with rolling backgrounds with actors in front.
* Rivendale was pretty cool but seemed cold and empty
* Stone trolls were cool
* Goblin town was cool. I like the Temple of Doom vibe.
* Riddles in the dark was fantastic. I don't even know how it could be improved except perhaps to sync up the finding of the ring with the LOTR movies
* Escape from Goblin town was where I really got tired of the recycled music themes since it sounded exactly like the escape from Moria theme
* Into the fire sequence was pretty good except for that weird looking Azog
* The whole "I'm gonna fake you out by being mean and then be nice" ending was horrible and could have just ended with Thorin showing respect.
Overall a good movie but left me a bit disappointed. It wasn't LOTR which is fine but it didn't transport me to another place that would make me not care
The next day I saw it in IMAX 3D at 48 FPS with my daughters. I would have to say I never in my life would have thought the change would be so dramatic.
* I LOVED the 48 FPS 3D. The 3D was bright. The picture was super clear. The level of detail in the backgrounds was amazing. The motion blur was 100% gone. Occasionally I would be jarred a bit by the Soap Opera effect but only rarely but it was easily traded off by the benefits. I usually get eye strain with 3D but got none of that with this film. This is the future IMO
* The CG looked 10x better in this format. Even Azog looked pretty good. I think the key is that it didn't look out of place. I don't know if it is because the eye is distracted by the 3D or if it just looks better. Whatever it is I don't care. More please.
The second time I walked out of that movie I had an entirely different opinion. I loved that movie. This time it was certainly different than LOTR but the look and feel of the world stood on it's own. I think it is obvious that this is the format PJ was concentrating on when he made the film.
My only fear now is that it will look horrible again when I buy the extended version DVD next year.
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Shagrat
Gondor
Dec 18 2012, 2:42pm
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Similar but really very different. Nothing recycled here. I love the Goblintown music.
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Pimmiko
Bree
Dec 18 2012, 4:39pm
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but I honestly hope that likes and dislikes were in opposite order in these reviews. It leaves me a bit depressed to read the dislikes at the end 
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R00ster_Sauce
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Dec 18 2012, 5:26pm
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Polynesian chanting while watching our main characters traverse narrow walkways and bridges in an underground labyrinth all from an over head camera angle is too similar for my tastes but glad you liked it.
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Nazguy
Bree
Dec 18 2012, 5:44pm
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I've been too ill to visit the cinema for several years now. I went to see the original trilogy many times but now I'm going to have to wait for the DVD. I would so love to see it on the big screen 
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Bruce Campbell's Chin
The Shire
Dec 18 2012, 6:53pm
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Just as the Hobbit is much more light-hearted than the previous films, but not entirely devoid of dark elements, just as the books were. I'll present the review is classic western style and I'll try not to be too verbose.
The Good: Bilbo, Thorin and Co., Gandalf, Radagast, Elrond...All the principal cast played the parts perfectly.
The events followed closely the book, even if some minor elements were changed or embellished to satisfy the medium through which the stories are presented.
The setting, effects, and costumes were excellent.
The Bad: The film was longer than it needed to be. I feel that it could use a tighter a edit, and I hope if an extended edition is released they edit some of the running/chasing/fighting sequences that went overlong and add in more dialog to drive the story. I don't mind action, but I think when a sequence is too long you start to lose some of the audience to "action fatigue".
The Ugly: I had heard a lot of people complain that the goblins and orcs being CGI looked terrible. I really didn't feel that was the case at all, with one exception. I didn't care for the Great Goblin. I thought they could have made him more obese, ugly, and mean. The CGI on him stood out to me whereas it didn't on the other goblins, Azog, or the wargs. I also thought they could add some deeper resonance to his voice, it was a little too high-pitched for the great fat orc he is supposed to be.
Final thought: Don't go to the Hobbit expecting a dark prequel filled with doom and gloom. Sure there are allusions to things to come, but for the most part this movie is a bit less serious. Expect there to be a few changes to the details of the book that won't affect the overall plot or tone, and realize that some of the action sequences feel a little padded out to film a longer running time (I think they could have gotten all the story, dialog, and action in in a bit shorter time, but maybe they had some favorite shots they just couldn't let go of). Longer isn't always better in movies, sometimes you've got cut some things to make a tighter story and get the flow better.
I really had hoped they do just two films so I could see Smaug right away, but it looks like I'll be waiting for next Christmas to look upon Smaug the Magnificent.
Other than the few minor details and the padding that I pointed out, I don't have any other complaints. Even with the little bits of filler I felt that the 2 hours 45 min went by quickly and enjoyed the ride from beginning to end.
The only thing that beats the Army of the Dead is a department store clerk with a chainsaw for a hand and a double-barreled boomstick!
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burgahobbit
Rohan
Dec 18 2012, 6:53pm
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Thorin sees Azog and thinks it cannot be.  Can you remember who it was that predicted this? I can't.
I was a little proud of myself though, I must admit, because I had predicted that Bilbo would keep the trolls arguing until dawn after the second TV spot came out, and nobody believed me back then. But now I wish it was not so, Gandalf arguing is better than Bilbo.
- flurga-burg-burra-hobbit
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 18 2012, 9:10pm
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One of the few dissapointments for me....
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HAS to be the Great Goblin. Even with his look I thought he would be more of a tyrannical and wicked BADASS! He instead was soft and nasally and not fierce at ALL! A little too much comedy relief. He could have been comical still...but Deadly at the same time!
(This post was edited by YaznegSouth40 on Dec 18 2012, 9:11pm)
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