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Altaira
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Dec 16 2012, 11:20pm
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Please post all Hobbit reviews within this thread. (Links to previous review threads are within.)
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We're trying to keep reviews in one place, so please post here.
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Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower
"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase
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Bladerunner
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Dec 16 2012, 11:45pm
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The Into the Fire scene in the movie seems very different than how it is shown in the panoramic movie poster....
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I would have preferred the scene in the poster with the trees on fire and the wargs howling beneath the dwarves, over the literal cliff-hanger tree approach.
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imin
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Dec 17 2012, 12:13am
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I dont know how that correlates to FOTR, TTT and ROTK when inflation is taken into account, also 3D pricing, and IMAX pricing but it must be right up there if not ahead.
It will be very interesting to see how it does over the next few weeks.
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 17 2012, 12:16am
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another way to look at the box office opening
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There have been a lot of commentary about the opening weekend at the box office comparing poorly(even though its a record breaker) to RotK due to inflation, 3D ticket prices, etc. Another number to look at is TH:AUJ took 62% of the North American gross its opening weekend while RoTK only took 51% of receipts. Just another way to compare.
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Subaruman
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Dec 17 2012, 12:19am
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According to my casual-fan friends an members of non-LOTR boards
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the movie was an amazing experience. Being addicted to daily updates and spoilers can make you lose your perspective. I liked it a lot on my 1st viewing and fell in love with it on my 2nd - but I still had no idea how it would be accepted by my friends and fellow members of other social media boards I take part in (primarily music-related).
The overwhelming opinion that I've seen is that this movie has been a huge success. Everybody seems to love it, which goes to show that critical reception can be very deceiving at times. Anyway, I couldn't care less about overall reception, but it's still nice to see how many people love these films outside of our fan-based communities such as this.
"Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space."
- J.R.R. Tolkien, 1956
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imin
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Dec 17 2012, 12:20am
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Does anyone know how many actual tickets were sold for AUJ? //
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Elessar
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Dec 17 2012, 12:25am
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I was really hoping this would come out and just rock the BO. The film was awesome and I'm ready to see it several more time I just wanted this to dominate the comic-book films and place a better genre near the top of the list.
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morgul lord
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Dec 17 2012, 12:28am
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Yup, my non-LOTR friends loved it
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They've seen LOTR once, maybe twice. Haven't read the books. I feared they might find the movie boring, but they all thought it was awesome.
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Dec 17 2012, 12:29am
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btw - Neil Finn's closing "Song of the Lonely Mountain" is fantastic.//
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rings7
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Dec 17 2012, 1:04am
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i loved it. It was greatness all over. For a moment i thought i was gonna see Smaug at the beginning but i knew that wouldn't happen. RA was amazing as Thorin, just brilliant, as well as Martin as Bilbo.
I didn't like of course, the fact that we knew there was gonna be more on this movie but was cut off due to the now trilogy enlargement. It was great, but it gets me that we have to wait so long for the big scenes.
Overall, great film, still does't beat LOTR, but i'm sure they'll be head to head once the third film comes out.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 17 2012, 1:11am
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I've read that it's right around where
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TTT was it's opening week-end. And it's important to note that movies opening in December don't depend on their opening week-ends like summer movies do (The Avengers, Transformers). They make their money over the long haul-- staying consistently strong over several week-ends through the holidays into the new year. So while not making the 100 mil. mark might sound disappointing (and is probably due to people taking a wait and see attitude thanks to the so-so reviews), the film is extremely popular with it's audiences and will likely stay strong in the coming weeks thanks to great word-of-mouth. And nearly 90 mil. domestic/225 mil. worldwide is not too shabby, and it could still easily make 1 billion worldwide. At least that's what i keep telling myself.
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Elessar
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Dec 17 2012, 1:48am
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I want this to make a lot of money so people find out how amazing the world Tolkien created is. I want more fans to be drawn in by the movies so they can learn to love the books. So that's why I tend to care about the final #.
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JJ Moon
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Dec 17 2012, 4:28am
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I have been waiting for a live action movie based upon, The Hobbit, since first reading J.R.R. Tolkien’s beloved book in 1985.
My viewing of The Hobbit, An Unexpected Journey, took place on Friday evening, at a movie theatre in Inver Grove Heights, a suburb of the Twin Cities in Minnesota.
I opted to avoid 3D 48fps so I could focus on the story and characters. I will be going again this week for the 3D version.
This posting is not a review of The Hobbit, An Unexpected Journey. I simply want to express my sincere gratitude to Sir Peter Jackson and his team of writers, the film crew, and actors that assembled together, to create an extraordinary start of this new movie trilogy, and a wonderful film adaption of the text, that is so sacred to Tolkien fans.
Movie magic has returned to the big screen, as we once again, have phenomenal movies to look forward to watching, with great anticipation, as the next chapters are to be released in 2013 and 2014.
I remember as a teen, anxiously waiting for the two sequels to the original Star Wars trilogy to arrive in theatres.
Then even more so, impatiently awaiting each of the theatrical releases of each of the Lord of the Rings films (and extended versions). The twelve months between those release dates of each of the films, were the slowest passing years, of recent memory. I still remember in great anticipation, the first look at the initial trailer for Return of the King. That film, to me, may never be dethroned as the greatest film achievement in the history of the film industry.
Perhaps the final film of The Hobbit trilogy, will finally rival ROTK, as the best third film in any trilogy.
Either way, it’s going to be a thrilling journey, and an agonizing wait!
Cheers, Sir Peter Jackson; and thank you for this mighty gift!
Jessie Ventura, as Dwalin
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Ruxendil_Thoorg
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Dec 17 2012, 5:01am
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Ruxen-come-lately's review (Spoilerama)
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Saw it today, in 2d.
Thoughts:
Loved seeing Bag End again, old Bilbo and Frodo. Bilbo's book is not ready for reading yet. So when does Frodo get to read it?
This framing device is set at the same time as beginning of FOTR.
So, what will the time setting be once we return to the framing at the end?
The Dale and Erebor prologue was fantastic. Dale was lovely. Erebor was magnificent! Thranduil's intro, smartly done. Great set-up for later.
Martin F nailed it as Bilbo. I knew he could do it, ever since I first saw him in Hitchhiker's Guide. He was my choice for Bilbo ever since. He did not disappoint. McKellen's Gandalf played the perfect foil. Loved the "good morning" bit.
The whole Dwarf company was great. I laughed with most of that unexpected party sequence. Thorin's disdain for Bilbo perfectly set up Bilbo's main story arc.
The idea of showing a ruin of a farm was clever. It all connects to the Necromancer later.
The troll sequence was brilliant. Having Bilbo thinking on his feet the way he did, in variance from the book, worked very well and felt natural and true to Bilbo's character (albeit developing earlier than in the book). The way Gandalf used his magic to break the boulder to *unblock* the dawn was a complete surprise and delight.
The Azog flashback was terrific, as was Azog himself. Great design. Looked real. And real frightening. Btw are Gundabad Orcs supposed to be this huge?
Not that I mind. Its good to have bad guys that are imposing. Also, Gundabad Wargs are better designed than Isengard Wargs.
Radagast rocks. He has his silly moments but when he's focused, he's full of win. Love the chronic bird-poop accessory!
The idea of having him bring Gandalf a morgul blade from Witch King's grave was smart. The idea of having Raddy call the forest Greenwood, so that it could become known as Mirkwood due to the Necromancer's influence, is also smart. All signs point to the Necromancer, the true bad guy.
The way the Company got ambushed, so that they end up corralled into Rivendell, is a smart way to establish Azog as the big bad boss of this movie and as a way to get the Dwarves into Rivendell despite their animosity toward Elves.
Rivendell was breathtaking. Loved seeing it from new angles. Elrond was great here, more likeable than in LOTR.
White Council scene was wonderful. This scene makes all the pieces fit, pointing at the Necromancer.
Galadriel's promise to come whenever Gandalf calls for her help seemed to me a foreshadowing. But of what?
Stone giants!!!!! I love how they are basically boulders (not unlike how Ents are basically trees). I was touched by the angst between Fili and Kili when they got separated.
Bilbo's scene with Bofur was key to Bilbo's arc. He's already decided to leave (not unlike when Frodo decided to leave during FOTR) and in that same scene he begins to realize his sympathy for the Dwarves for not having a home, except the home that was stolen from them. That sets up his arc for this film.
The trap floor and the entire Goblin Town design was phenomenal.
Riddles in the Dark was filled with tension and, later, pathos. I loved how they showed exactly how the Ring ended up on the ground, which the book never specified. I loved the "reprise" (preprise?) of the Rock and Pool song, with new lyrics. I appreciated the "preprise" of the "wraith-world" effect when Bilbo dons the Ring. The moment of Bilbo's pity was key, and beautifully executed. Also the dramatic irony of Gollum's vengeful fury, not realizing the mercy Bilbo had just bestowed on him, did not go unnoticed. Bravo.
The escape from Goblin town was brilliantly choreographed. Dwarves rocked in that scene. I loved how it showed them, and Gandalf, kicking major a**.
Then the moment that got me emotional--Bilbo's answer to Thorin's question. It was a pivotal development in his character. It showed how far he'd come, internally (rather than merely geographically). This was where the heart of the movie came through, and where I got misty-eyed. I realized then that I was enjoying the movie more than I had even dared to hope.
Then Out of the Fire. Here was where the Company seemed in the most danger and vulnerable. Dori stood out for me here, when he was clinging to the tree, wracked with fear and pain. Good idea to have Azog here at the climax, rather than Goblins.
I was glad that Bilbo had a chance here to show his stuff. The moment between him and Azog seems to me a foreshadowing of something. But what?
The Eagles were perfect.
The moment between Thorin and Bilbo at the end was beautiful. What a climax! "I do believe the worst is behind us.". Ha! Then, the dragon's eye.
This by itself was a standalone great movie with tons of heart. In some ways it surpassed even FOTR. The story of Bilbo's rise to his occasions is what makes Tolkien's story resonate for me, and this installment captured that, or an important part of that. FOTR was not about that. It had its emotional.moments, such as the falls of Gandalf and of Boromir, but they were not central to Frodo's arc.
So I don't know if the TH trilogy will be overall better or more enjoyable than LOTR trilogy, but this installment is definitely a great start.
Thanks for reading.
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Lissuin
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Dec 18 2012, 4:17am
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In honour of Mr. Baggins, please remind me which parody it was where you came up with the immortal line,
"A bag is like a hole that you can carry with you."
Classic Ruxendil_Thoorg.
Cheers
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Ruxendil_Thoorg
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Dec 18 2012, 11:19pm
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Oh gawd, was that me gushing?   . Btw, I'm seeing it again this weekend, in IMAX 3d HFR!!! Woohoo! Prepare to be gushed upon once more, Mister Baggins!!!
The line --thank you dear Lissuin for predicting its immortality! One can only hope!--isn't from a parody, but from a reply to Quacking Troll in a discussion thread that sprang from a Middle Earth Conspiracy Theories game thread... or maybe Scenes from the Hat? It was about Lobelia, what was she really after in wanting Bag End? And i posted something about how she wanted to change its name to Sack End. And then Q wrote a question/ thoughtfully pondered why Tolkien seemed to have a thing about sacks and bags. And my reply to that was that Sack is the evil doppelganger of Bag. after all... and then the line.
And then you posted a reply quoting that line, which inspired me to start using it in my sig. So , my sig is directly inspired by none other than my dear friends, yourself and Quacking Troll. 
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Lissuin
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Dec 18 2012, 11:32pm
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Isn't this a fun place when we all play nicely together? 
'Glad to have been a small part in TORn mythology.
Enjoy your IMAX extravaganza!
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Dec 18 2012, 11:32pm
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I didn't explain fully. I was also saying that Sacks and Bags both relate to Hobbits bc they both relate to holes. after all... and then the line.
(I meant to edit my post above but missed the time deadline)
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Ruxendil_Thoorg
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Dec 19 2012, 2:33am
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LOL! TORn mythology! Thanks for that
Thanks, I'm a bit nervous about seeing it in HFR (IMAX 3d however has never been a problem for me) but now that I've gushed on and on about the movie I guess I could stand to risk it for the second viewing.
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So..., you liked it, R_T?
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