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KeenObserver
Lorien
Jul 28 2014, 10:24am
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Didn't get that 30 minutes I wanted.
Oh well, I'll take it.
”The thirst for adventure is the vent which Destiny offers; a war, a crusade, a gold mine, a new country, speak to the imagination and offer…” - Jose Bergamin
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Arannir
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 10:27am
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"It’s easy to be cynical, but I am so charmed by these Comic-Con people and how the proceedings bring out the child versions of themselves. Total lack of cynicism. "
This is a good quote by the interviewer, though. Modern movie-boards are full of extreme cynicism.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Arannir
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 10:34am
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But once I was back in, it was a blast. This was the most fun I ever had making a film.
SO much for PJ not being "all-in", as some claim.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Azaghâl
Lorien
Jul 28 2014, 10:55am
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" We don’t introduce any new characters. We don’t go anywhere. There’s no traveling. The dwarves and everyone else got to where they need to be, last time and everybody’s been introduced."
I hope this is not true. Dain is a pretty big character who has not been introduced to us yet.
If PJ ends up having him be a non-talking king who shows up and just acts as Thorin's puppet, I'm gonna be a very angry dwarf.
*Baruk khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu!*
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Shagrat
Gondor
Jul 28 2014, 10:58am
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I just started a new thread with the same observation.
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea
Jul 28 2014, 12:05pm
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He wants the Sil, I can feel it
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In any part of the interview denies it, only states what is the CURRENT state of Sil´s rights
The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true!
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KeenObserver
Lorien
Jul 28 2014, 12:07pm
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I shall be a consistent attendee at the showings of Sir Peter's future films (bring on The Damn Busters; bring on the Kiwi-centric features)
A thoughtful and likeable quote from the interview:
The memories are things that will never go away and they are part of your organic upbringings, they’re implanted. And film geeks like me and you, and the people here, we are all the product of the movies we saw. Somewhat poignant, aint it? 
Go get 'em, PJ.
”The thirst for adventure is the vent which Destiny offers; a war, a crusade, a gold mine, a new country, speak to the imagination and offer…” - Jose Bergamin
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Arannir
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 12:14pm
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... if he was - in another universe - asked to do, say, "The Children of Hurin" he would certainly have a hard time not doing it.
It could have a very different feeling from LotR and TH... although initially many people would say "He is doing the whole thing again" I am sure this kind of story would blow away a lot of people... even some lovers of LotR and TH (books) have no idea how gritty, dark and different some stories of the Sil are.
One day... maybe not in my liftime... :
"The War of the Jewels" Trilogy
Part I - The Lay of Beren and Lúthien
Part II - The Children of Húrin
Part III - The War of Wrath
Dreaming...
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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tsmith675
Gondor
Jul 28 2014, 12:15pm
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You don't get someone like Billy Connolly...
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To play a character if he isn't going to have a significant role. Don't worry, PJ was just generalizing I believe.
Our destiny lies above us.
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea
Jul 28 2014, 12:27pm
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I always pictured like that and I cant believe the large amount of naysayers that...
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Can think something as simple as this, a series of movies dividing the Sil in such wonderfull and standalone sotries like those you pointed. That would be awesome, even if you only make those 3 and leave all Numenor stuff behind.
And they would after all the WWI movies PJ ever wanted to make, imagin that, and then when Morgoth is sent away ME would going back to the fairy tale tone that has in AUJ
What do ya think?
The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true!
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Jul 28 2014, 1:03pm
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Dain was mentioned/"introduced" in AUJ, so maybe that's where Jackson's coming from.
How many Tolkien fans does it take to change a light bulb?
"Change? Oh my god, what do you mean change?! Never, never, never......"
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cats16
Half-elven
Jul 28 2014, 1:26pm
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Hoping to see more of Beorn and Mirkwood (a wish I think is popular here and elsewhere).
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 1:33pm
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Very nice interview. Thanks, TheHutt.
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Really hoping for more Mirkwood and the Woodland Realm... and more Thranduil! (which I'll repeat ad nausem even if I'm not his thrall, because the character was just portrayed so well )
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. But call me Lurker.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
 Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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 Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk
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Arannir
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 1:40pm
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I was trying to think how long each addition might be.
Beorn - 5 minutes?
River / Stag - 5 minutes?
Company in Dale - 3 minutes?
Thranduil/Company - 3 minutes?
Feast of Starlight - 2 minutes?
Thrain??? Still no idea how he could be included and still make sense of that plotline in Bot5A.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 1:42pm
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the feasible point is maybe in the prologue I think, just in the convo between Gandalf and Thorin. Anywhere else would seem too disjointed. If he's to be mentioned before BotFA that is.
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. But call me Lurker.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk
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mae govannen
Tol Eressea
Jul 28 2014, 2:06pm
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thank you so much for the link!
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Jul 28 2014, 2:41pm
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EVEN through PJ was SERIOUSLY Jet-Lagged..
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he does a GREAT interview...
"The Dain", part?
Dain was introduced in BagEND....
Bomby attributes this to
his..."JET -LAG"
Nothing more,
nothing Less
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NoelGallagher
Rohan
Jul 28 2014, 3:22pm
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In Dol Guldur, i'll go dramatically mad
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Ardamírë
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 3:32pm
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Ok, not dramatically mad, but definitely disappointed. That was one of the things from the very first trailer I was most excited to see.
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LordotRings93
Rohan
Jul 28 2014, 3:47pm
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If I recall, FOTR had around 25 minutes of extended footage put in, and that was enough for me! This seems substantial enough. AUJ's extended edition was great and loved the added scenes, but really wasn't much new stuff, with Rivendell being the only extended scene. I hope a lot of the new stuff is spread out throughout the film, and not just put in at the beginning (like we'll only get extended Beorn and Mirkwood). Can't wait for this!!
And great interview as well. Was also wondering about LOTR being converted to 3D and be rereleased. I hope this happens sometime soon, even though PJ doesn't think so. Would love to revisit theaters and see LOTR again, and it'll add more Middle-earth to the big screen! I think WB will do something with Middle-earth in film. It's too much of a money maker to just let die after BOTFA. We won't get the Sil, but maybe some spin offs like the War in the North or maybe set on some new characters during the Third Age?
The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies 12/17/14
"I know what I must do. It's just... I'm afraid to do it."
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Jul 28 2014, 4:09pm
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BUT a
BILLION
BUCKzz @ the
BOX Office...
COULD
CONVINCE WB to
CONSIDER?.. a 3D
CONVERSION of LOTR?
TOYzz
TIE-IN..zz,..,
TRINKETS...
TICKET Saleszzz..for a Re-BOOT.?
May It BE????
Bomby would
"LIKE" THAT
Wouldn't YOU?
(GET W/ THE... program..WB!)
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Jul 28 2014, 4:12pm
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Might as well give you folks the scoop
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So as TDOS has been out for a while I thought I'd share some scenes I was told about that weren't in the movie;
- More of the dwarves hiding in Laketown. One scene with them filming in a tavern, hiding under a table.
- Braga confronts Bard, who snags some underwar and jokingly tells Braga something along the lines of "These look just like the ones your wife wear." (my source couldn't quite remember the specific line)
- Bilbo defending Thorin during their talk outside the townhouse with the Master and Bard.
- The Laketowners providing the company with food and clothes.
- The company leaving through the main gate of Laketown.
There's no guarantee any of these scenes will be included in the extended edition, but at least they were filmed.
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LordotRings93
Rohan
Jul 28 2014, 4:24pm
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Really don't want/can't imagine a reboot
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This adaption of LOTR/Hobbit is somewhat the definitive adaption, and I can't imagine WB/any director wanting to reboot it any time soon. These films are already perfect. Can you imagine any other composers' score outshining Howard Shore's? Can you imagine a much more perfect ending to the FOTR than what we got? It'll be hard to top, and I don't think it'll be done in the foreseeable future. Just keep expanding this Middle-earth we already have on film, again, with spin offs and such. Middle-earth is so huge, they don't need to be confined to only the works of JRR, and instead could do a spin off film set in the Third Age on new characters during the War of the Ring, like a Dunedain ranger or something.
The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies 12/17/14
"I know what I must do. It's just... I'm afraid to do it."
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