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Owlyross
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May 5 2009, 11:47am
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An interview with Christopher Tolkien
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About Sigurd and Gudrun, but with some interesting questions (and answers) about LotR and the Sil...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/may/05/jrr-tokien-sigurd-gudrun-poem
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Benjamin Franklin
The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
Horace Walpole (1717 - 1797)
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Owlyross
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May 5 2009, 3:33pm
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I think he's got a secret boar army
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He'd never say, especially if he had one... 
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Benjamin Franklin
The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
Horace Walpole (1717 - 1797)
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Larewen
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May 5 2009, 11:44pm
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He mentioned:
But it was long my father's ultimately unfulfilled ambition to tell three of the major individual stories from The Silmarillion in a much fuller form than was suitable for that work itself; and it is clear that if he had completed any one of these tales, he would have wished to publish it as a separate work, despite its being part of a much larger history.
If Children of Hurin is one, I am guessing Beren and Luthien would be two, which would be the third story?
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LEGIONTX
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May 6 2009, 12:54am
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The story of Gondolin? I would of loved to had a broader story written about the rise and fall of Gondolin.
He mentioned:
But it was long my father's ultimately unfulfilled ambition to tell three of the major individual stories from The Silmarillion in a much fuller form than was suitable for that work itself; and it is clear that if he had completed any one of these tales, he would have wished to publish it as a separate work, despite its being part of a much larger history. If Children of Hurin is one, I am guessing Beren and Luthien would be two, which would be the third story?
Marching Towards the Abyss...........
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Larewen
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May 6 2009, 12:56am
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Would there be another?
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Compa_Mighty
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May 6 2009, 2:54am
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That is also the oldest one of any od the Beleriand/Middle Earth stories.
I'm sure someone will come with a better response, more informative at least... but it is the Fall of Gondolin.
Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!
Essay winner of the Show us your Hobbit Pride Giveway!
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weaver
Gondolin
May 6 2009, 3:17am
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I, also, loved C. Tolkien's description of what his father would have thought to be so popular today -- he knew his dad well!
He also "sounds" like JRRT to me, in the way he phrases things -- it's similar to the way JRRT expresses himself in his letters, IMHO anyway.
Interesting read -- thanks!
Weaver
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Beren
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May 6 2009, 7:28am
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CT has now released a wonderful book
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I'm happy Christopher Tolkien did this interview and took down some of the 'myths' that came into being after the Lord of the Rings movies.
If you read this new Tolkien book, which I did twice by now, you can see a tremendous love for Northern Mythologies by both JRR Tolkien and his son Christopher, who edited the work. This is clearly a topic he likes, and his introduction and detailed comments are showing this! I'm of the opinion that this is one of the best books released. I know it is not Middle-earth related, but if you open up your hearth you will see a complete new world open up for you; it will give you a bigger understanding why Middle-earth was created and why it is what it is. You can see Tolkien at his very best in these poems, and he reveals much about himself as a person as well. To give an example he uses the metrical form much stricter then even the original auhtors of parts of the Edda, he deplois pagan deities and gives them a catholic twist,...
Well, I'm very impressed by this new book and even a bit overwhelmed. I released my review here: http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/...igurd_and_Gudrun.php
But in the mean time might have to alter it a bit, since I am now loving the book even better. It is something that seems to need some time,... the love for these poems grows everytime you read them. I'm happy they have been published and I believe this book will finally give CT the respect he deserves!
'It is fulfilled. Even now a Silmaril is in my hand.' - tolkienlibrary.com
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elentari3018
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May 7 2009, 3:23am
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Thanks for your enthusiastic response---
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I am thinking of buying it soon too-- anything Tolkien should be precioussss. It would be interesting to read about his prior interest and how that influenced some of his writing about Middle-earth. :)
"By Elbereth and Luthien the fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" ~Frodo
"And then Gandalf arose and bid all men rise, and they rose, and he said: 'Here is a last hail ere the feast endeth. Last but not least. For I name now those who shall not be forgotten and without whose valour nought else that was done would have availed; and I name before you all Frodo of the Shire and Samwise his servant. And the bards and the minstrels should give them new names: Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad , Endurance beyond Hope and Hope Unquenchable.." ~Gandalf, The End of the Third Age , from The History of Middle Earth series
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SirDennisC
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May 7 2009, 3:36am
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The more epic poems I read, the more I like them. Though nothing beats a poet turned novelist for a beautiful read.
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SirDennisC
Gondolin
May 7 2009, 3:39am
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Tolkien's translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight (also a poem). Alas, the only copy I have ever seen was at the university library.
I agree with you and look forward to having a go with this latest posthumus offering.
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Donry
Dor-Lomin
May 7 2009, 5:07am
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and I'll have to pick up the 'new' book. Glad to see he has come out of his shell ! I may also have to pick up Sil again and give it a whirl.
What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?"
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N.E. Brigand
Gondolin
May 28 2009, 11:35pm
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Further comments by CT on "The Silmarillion" appeared the same week.
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Since it hasn't otherwise been mentioned here, I'll note belatedly that a couple days after this interview was published, Carl Hostetter got permission from Christopher Tolkien to post some fascinating comments, partly inspired by the appearance of Voronwë the Faithful's book, Arda Reconstructed, about how CT's History of Middle-earth series differs his unpublished "History of The Silmarillion", a private exercise that runs to some 2,600 pages!
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We're discussing The Hobbit in the Reading Room, Mar. 23 - Aug. 9. Everyone is welcome!
Join us May 18-24 for "Barrels out of Bond".
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How to find old Reading Room discussions.
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
May 29 2009, 12:46am
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WELCOME TO HALF-ELVENDOM!!!!! WOOHOO!!!
A little birdie told me you were approaching this milestone... and she was right!
Congratulations, O Wise One :)
"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."
~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
TORn's Observations Lists
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dernwyn
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May 29 2009, 1:27am
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It's not just any brigand of the hills who can attain the status of Half-Elven: it can only be TORn's own N.E. BRIGAND!
Congratulations on achieving your new status (and it'll be staying with you a long, long time! )
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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dernwyn
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May 29 2009, 1:30am
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(And you thought you could get away with this moment, by posting on page 3...!)
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Nope, there's no place to hide on these new Boards! 
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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sador
Gondolin
May 31 2009, 8:21am
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I don't think you understood it all
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That very page N.E.B linked to, shows us that Voronwe the Faithful has collected 15,791 posts in the Hall of Fire - so we really shouldn't be impressed by his puny 5000 posts! 
Nevertheless, even five thousand posts is a lot for the likes of me; and it calls for a tribute:
"Our N. E. Brigand is a pleasnt fellow,
spot-on his questions are, and his tone is mellow.
None has ever caught him yet, for neb, he is the master:
His book-lore incredible, and he finds links faster."
"I could eat anything in the wide world now, for hours on end - but not an apple!" - Fili
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dernwyn
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Jun 1 2009, 2:20am
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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GaladrielTX
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Jun 1 2009, 5:38pm
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Somebody has become Half-elven, so I see!
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*clangs bell and sets off siren*
This did just happen, didn't it? Or have I been living under a rock?
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The TORNsib formerly known as Galadriel.
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GaladrielTX
Dor-Lomin
Jun 1 2009, 5:41pm
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I noticed, too. Congrats on Half-elvendom, sir!
*sets off siren*
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And the boar story was just hilarious! 