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New vlog from Peter Jackson!!
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The Shire

Jul 1 2013, 9:30pm

Post #76 of 157 (1053 views)
Thank you so much! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much! You're the best, thanks for your work. You'are a hero for a lot of people of all the world ;)

Cheers and thank you again for your amazing work!

Grey Havens

Jul 1 2013, 9:33pm

Post #77 of 157 (1069 views)
Not much Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

May not mean much considering this is for pick-ups. The scenes Bilbo is in, I would guess, are to a large degree the ones that were always going to be in a 2-movie Hobbit. Also, while we saw little of him, he must have been present for several of the scenes shown (Bard and the Dwarves in the barrels, and the spider scene, to name two) - they just did not choose to feature him in the vlog, showing us instead more about the new characters from the second movie.


Jul 1 2013, 9:50pm

Post #78 of 157 (1081 views)
my supposition. [In reply to] Can't Post

Gandalf, Legolas, and Tauriel are fighting the BoFA on the streets of Dale. It is snowing and Gandalf
is fighting orcs. What else could it be? Outfitted Thranduil also appears to be battling amongst ruins.

They mentioned the armory of dale and it being the setting for a particular scene. It also showed human corpses
in the bloodied snow. This can only mean one thing imo... After the dragon Smaug is slain, the people of Laketown
come to resettle Dale. The orc army descends upon the region, and the poor people arm themselves from the old
Dale armories. If there is fighting in Dale's streets though, this has to be one big battle... it must stretch all the way
from Dale to the gates of Erebor? How are the defenders in Dale supposed to rally to Thorin and our company at the gate?

I do like PJ's opening segment. He seems to be real excited about the upcoming films and wants to ensure the quality of the upcoming
content. I like this. Smile


Jul 1 2013, 10:01pm

Post #79 of 157 (1042 views)
Compare [In reply to] Can't Post

this pic:


and the first scene with Gandalf and Radagast. The same landscape..so i´m quite sure that scene is right after investigating the tombs.


Jul 1 2013, 10:32pm

Post #80 of 157 (960 views)
Great vlog! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thandruil looks wonderful (the little we see of him), and the Lake Town setting is lovely. Great to see the Dwarves again. Costumes and settings look really promising.

Appreciate what PJ said about Comic Con at the beginning – far better for him to remain focused on the film.

But I don't want any Beorn or Smaug spoilers before the film is released – would really prefer to see those for the first time in the film itself.

Metal Slug

Jul 1 2013, 10:34pm

Post #81 of 157 (931 views)
Agreed. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like to see some surprises. (Good ones hopefully.) Shocked

(This post was edited by Metal Slug on Jul 1 2013, 10:39pm)

Superuser / Moderator

Jul 1 2013, 10:39pm

Post #82 of 157 (942 views)
That's fantastic - thanks Silverlode! One wee edit: [In reply to] Can't Post

In this bit:

Nori: All I'm saying, that's the last date we have, ok? Go to a movie, he said. Go down on the beach, but no! I wake up, I'm covered in this stuff. Not only that, those are all those extras over there!

...Nori is saying 'exes' (as in ex-boyfriends), not extras.

Boy you've got speedy typing skills to get the transcript done so quickly. Smile

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.

Ataahua's stories


Jul 1 2013, 10:43pm

Post #83 of 157 (931 views)
It's good marketing. [In reply to] Can't Post

They know what it takes to keep a fan base excited and on edge, and they're working it.


Jul 1 2013, 10:54pm

Post #84 of 157 (904 views)
Thanks Daniel for putting this up! (And thanks to Ainur-Olorin too, for the thought!) [In reply to] Can't Post

I am thrilled to see how multi-dimensional and animated Thranduil comes across as! Was iffy at first about the character but I do like what I am seeing. Confirmation of the other shots we have seen of Thorin within the Mirkwood webbing.

Too bad about ComicCon but I thank them ALL for the effort going into the production instead.

Manwe, when asked a simple "Yes" or "No" question, contemplated, and responded "the middle one."

(This post was edited by Brethil on Jul 1 2013, 10:54pm)

Forum Admin / Moderator

Jul 1 2013, 10:55pm

Post #85 of 157 (893 views)
Ah, thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

I had a hard time making that line out at all. I've made the change in the transcript. Smile


"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."

(This post was edited by Silverlode on Jul 1 2013, 10:57pm)


Jul 1 2013, 11:00pm

Post #86 of 157 (879 views)
Thanks for posting this link Daniel! [In reply to] Can't Post

Really enjoyed the Vlog- but I will have to watch again to pick up on some of the action. This is making me more excited for the next film.

"Beneath the roof of sleeping leaves the dreams of trees unfold"


Jul 1 2013, 11:04pm

Post #87 of 157 (879 views)
Thanks Daniel [In reply to] Can't Post

Surprised its taken them this long for a new blog. The sets and costumes look fantastic-More than can be said for Evanglein Lilly's 'acting' (though if I'm honest I'm pretty dissapointed they completey ignored Tolkien's own, very clear conception of Laketown).

Lee Pace shows every sign of being my Richard Armitage (i.e. Giving much unexpected depth to a underdeveloped character-not a fan of Armitage, but Pace looks very very promising), loving Dale in the snow, I'm a little worried that Legolas is being featured so heavily though-don't even try to pretend that's in the appendices PJ!. Glad we are being kept in the dark about Smaug and Beorn.

Was really hoping for a sneak peak at Dain, oh well....

This is not a very interesting signature is it?


Jul 1 2013, 11:17pm

Post #88 of 157 (857 views)
Me, too [In reply to] Can't Post

That's why most of it is elves and Bard. That's my take. PJ is adding scenes with these characters as the Bilbo story line is, as they say, in the can. Glad to see there will be snow.


Jul 1 2013, 11:53pm

Post #89 of 157 (854 views)
Was he an Elf? [In reply to] Can't Post

He was fighting, and not fully costumed. I think he could have just been a stuntie who might end up as an orc or goodness knows what by the time they got done with the scene.


Jul 1 2013, 11:59pm

Post #90 of 157 (869 views)
Mithril Shirt [In reply to] Can't Post


Looks like Bilbo is wearing the mithril! This really shouldn't excite me as much as it does... I guess it's the small things but I can't wait for the scene where Thorin gives it to him.

(This post was edited by Lauryn on Jul 1 2013, 11:59pm)


Jul 2 2013, 12:25am

Post #91 of 157 (896 views)
Concerning Legolas and Tauriel on the elk [In reply to] Can't Post

What's with the guy in the greenscreen suit behind Tauriel on the elk?

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951

The Grey Elf
Grey Havens

Jul 2 2013, 12:30am

Post #92 of 157 (827 views)
Not Asian, I think [In reply to] Can't Post

But possibly Maori (assuming we're speaking about the same shot). That is the actor, not the elf. Wink

The Grey Elf
Grey Havens

Jul 2 2013, 12:35am

Post #93 of 157 (881 views)
Loved that RA peek, too! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hope somebody gets that as a screen cap. It would make great material for captions. Smile


Jul 2 2013, 12:40am

Post #94 of 157 (846 views)
It ?.IZZ..the Mithril Coat Bilbo is wearing!!!/ [In reply to] Can't Post


(This post was edited by Bombadil on Jul 2 2013, 12:41am)

The Grey Elf
Grey Havens

Jul 2 2013, 12:44am

Post #95 of 157 (836 views)
Anybody else notice the dwarfs seem to be sporting longer hair? [In reply to] Can't Post

At least from what we saw in the hilarious exercise "video." It's nice that they're showing the passage of time that way and their scraggly 'dos to reflect the rough adventures they've been through. Perhaps by the end of the movie, Kili will have grown an actual beard.


Jul 2 2013, 12:47am

Post #96 of 157 (791 views)
I'd love to see time passing like that. [In reply to] Can't Post

It would add just enough realism but also be nice and subtle.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel


Jul 2 2013, 1:01am

Post #97 of 157 (821 views)
Gandalf's staff [In reply to] Can't Post

One of the comments on torn's main page said that Gandalf is weilding a different staff in the glimpse that we him fighting in Dale. What do you guys think?

Here's a few screen-shots. http://imgur.com/a/CUv3N It looks like Radagast's staff with its spindly ends rather than the enclosed shape at the top of Gandalf's staff. So is it Radagast's? We know McCoy has said that his staff becomes "important" to the story later on. So this might confirm that Gandalf takes Raddie's staff.

There's been a lot of speculation that Radagast will die, and it seems like quite a few people here are comfortable with that idea. Despite the fact that I'm not the biggest fan of how he's been portrayed, I would be wholly uncomfortable with him dying. For me it seems extremely cheap to kill him off just because he doesn't appear in the LOTR trilogy.

Does anyone have any other theories? Perhaps Gandalf's staff is simply broken by the Necromancer Unimpressed (ROTK EE Witch-king scene, blech) and Radagast offers his staff to Gandalf.

I can't lie, I'm pretty worried about all this.


Jul 2 2013, 1:04am

Post #98 of 157 (798 views)
He's the one making the "elk(?)" move [In reply to] Can't Post

At least that's what I think.


Jul 2 2013, 1:06am

Post #99 of 157 (799 views)
I'm probably being fanciful but I thought he looked a bit sad there.// [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To
Hope somebody gets that as a screen cap. It would make great material for captions. Smile

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Jul 2 2013, 1:09am

Post #100 of 157 (766 views)
I would say yes. [In reply to] Can't Post

The middle elf of the trio at 7:15 looks East Asian and possibly female.

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