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tolktolk
Menegroth

Dec 9 2012, 1:42pm

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London screeenings today Can't Post

The Hobbit is having a couple of screenings in London today. Officially reviews are apparently embargoed until 5pm but reactions are beginning to come through on Twitter. Here's one of the first:

https://twitter.com/thatterrylewis

In general the latest reviews and reactions are far more positive than those earliest ones coming from America.

Here is a rather sweet editorial in today's Observer:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/...r-jackson?CMP=twt_gu


Crunchable Birdses
Nargothrond


Dec 9 2012, 1:51pm

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It doesn't surprise me that it will fare better in UK and Europe [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't want to start some sort of transatlantic fight here, but Europeans (UK at least) tend to be more accepting and patient with slower paced films than their American brethren. Also, Tolkien is held to a very high esteem in the UK, so I think people will appreciate the extra detail and depth added to an already familiar story.

* crunch *


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Dec 9 2012, 2:11pm

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Heh. I was going to say the same thing. ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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macfalk
Doriath


Dec 9 2012, 2:21pm

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I think so too. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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tolktolk
Menegroth

Dec 9 2012, 2:29pm

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Here's another reaction [In reply to] Can't Post

https://twitter.com/loikeIsaidbut


Erufaildon
Nevrast


Dec 9 2012, 2:30pm

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Haha, why does Miles Jacobson get to go? [In reply to] Can't Post

He's the head of the guys who make Football Manager, the only video game I play (yes, I'm playing it right now aswell).

Lucky fella.


Crunchable Birdses
Nargothrond


Dec 9 2012, 2:34pm

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Well, I for one am glad I don't get to go to a special screening [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't want to see it in 48frames

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(This post was edited by Crunchable Birdses on Dec 9 2012, 2:34pm)


Ececheira
Nevrast


Dec 9 2012, 2:59pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm going to one of the London screenings, with Q&A


Wordofmask
Menegroth

Dec 9 2012, 3:13pm

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However [In reply to] Can't Post

it's a literature of England Wink


Carne
Dor-Lomin

Dec 9 2012, 3:20pm

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Ask Jackson if he's going to release the remaining LOTR deleted scenes! [In reply to] Can't Post

Wink


Lusitano
Dor-Lomin


Dec 9 2012, 3:20pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

And lets not forget : most of the worlds more artsy, slower paced, independent, auteur directed and artistically unimcumbered by commecial necessities pieces of cinema come from Europe.

And Woody Allen was never appreciated by America in the same way as Europeans have. He is loved around here Cool. That means a lot.

Moreover, i think several of the latest reviews, independently of being positive or negative, are badly written and often seem to be copying each other. Many of them dont even have a professional approach, but rather they feel more like grumbles or chit chats.


tolktolk
Menegroth

Dec 9 2012, 5:08pm

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OK, reactions coming through ... [In reply to] Can't Post

https://twitter.com/v_for_vienetta

HFR-MAHGERD! The Hobbit looked amazing!

Don't worry about The Hobbit. It's very good. You're welcome.

https://twitter.com/fransgaard

#TheHobbit very good. A mix of Lord of the Rings & The Labyrinth.

yes, very much a world of its own rather than a LoTR spin-off with much more colourful characters in both sides.

https://twitter.com/benpulsford

Just watched @TheHobbitMovie - absolutely phenomenal. 3D and 48 frames-per second absolutely blew my mind


Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum

Dec 9 2012, 5:12pm

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Well and of course we, at bottom, simply have better taste.... [In reply to] Can't Post

*Lights*

*Places*

*Strolls away whistling*

LR


Estel78
Dor-Lomin

Dec 9 2012, 5:20pm

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I hope those are people that write reviews that get posted on sites such as Rotten Tomatoes [In reply to] Can't Post

You know, to get those percentages up. Wink


tolktolk
Menegroth

Dec 9 2012, 5:31pm

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More ... [In reply to] Can't Post

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Ashby

The Hobbit in 48fps 3D: absolutely incredible. Both visuals & film itself were fantastic. Already looking forward to seeing it again.
It was awesome. See it in HFR! Takes a little while to get used to but it is then absolutely brilliant.

https://twitter.com/thomasdharris

A Twitter review: 1st the positives, it's a lot of fun and a brilliantly entertaining film that although being nearly 3 hours, is totally satisfying...Martin Freeman is brilliant playing both neurotic and quirky which when supported by the dwarves, creates a genuinely enjoyable film……HOWEVER, the film is totally redundant on CGI and as a result of this, loses the heart of LOTR, replacing it with a pace-maker...…the 48 FPS makes the image crystal clear yet makes the overall picture look televisual and amateur, the 3D is also utterly redundant...#TheHobbit feels like deja vu, but this doesn't matter in the long run. It's entertaining and a hell of a lot of fun. 4 STARS****

48fps is proving controversial again though - quite a few people are saying they absolutely hate it.


Durhil
Lindon


Dec 9 2012, 5:41pm

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not really surprising about the 48 fps [In reply to] Can't Post

good, some positive feedbacks more about the movie.

@ HFR: I think for now it is love it or hate it, which I expected. I mean we are so used to the usual 24 fps that it's quite difficult to adjust to a new presentation (higher frame rate).

still I'm looking forward to the 48 fps.


(This post was edited by Durhil on Dec 9 2012, 5:48pm)


Carne
Dor-Lomin

Dec 9 2012, 5:59pm

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Someone should make another reviews thread! [In reply to] Can't Post

Positive review from Digital Spy: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/...-journey-review.html


Crunchable Birdses
Nargothrond


Dec 9 2012, 6:26pm

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An absolutely scathing review from The Telegraph [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/9730525/The-Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey-movie-review.html

It's like after the film Peter Jackson personally came round to his house and shot his pet dog.

He's even nasty about Martin Freeman's performance.

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(This post was edited by Crunchable Birdses on Dec 9 2012, 6:29pm)


Finrod
Nargothrond


Dec 9 2012, 6:41pm

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Answer me these questions three [In reply to] Can't Post


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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...ey-movie-review.html

It's like after the film Peter Jackson personally came round to his house and shot his pet dog.

He's even nasty about Martin Freeman's performance.


I cannot figure out what this is supposed to mean:
Eventually we are introduced to Bag End, and Bilbo Baggins as Martin Freeman, who makes exactly one-third of a good job of portraying the character. We also meet Gandalf (Ian McKellen) and the 13 dwarves who accompany Bilbo on his adventure. Ken Stott stands out as the bibulous Balin and James Nesbitt is rather good as the mischievous Bofur, but the others move around as a kind of amorphous dramatic blob. Also, two of their names are mispronounced throughout the entire film, which is unforgivable.
Several questions.
  1. First, did they just say that Martin would have had to have worked thrice as hard as he did to do a good job at portraying Bilbo? Really? That’s not impressive, it’s depressive.
  2. Next, what’s this about Balin being a drunk? The red nose?
  3. Last, which two dwarves have names that have been mispronounced throughout the film? I heard a few liberties, but nothing so bad as this claim.
Any ideas?

…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.
The Silmarillion, pp 150-151
while Felagund laughs beneath the trees
in Valinor and comes no more
to this grey world of tears and war.
The Lays of Beleriand, p 311




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Welsh hero
Mithlond


Dec 9 2012, 6:53pm

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Digital Spy gives it 4/5 stars [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a443987/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-review.html

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Welsh hero
Mithlond


Dec 9 2012, 6:56pm

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Movie web gives it a 4/5 [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.movieweb.com/movie/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey/REn5Yis5uFRlqu

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Crunchable Birdses
Nargothrond


Dec 9 2012, 6:57pm

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It's agenda-driven [In reply to] Can't Post

The Telegraph's movie reviews are typically all agenda-driven twaddle.

I can only imagine that The Telegraph has a problem with Martin Freeman outside of the films, and being British they would have had a lot of exposure to Freeman in his various TV roles. Freeman probably just said something nasty about the Telegraph or the Tories at some point.

Worth pointing out that the only two Dwarf actors he mentions (and applauds) are the two with the highest profile in British drama.

That review reads like agenda-driven rubbish. I imagine the editor probably said to the reviewer "We're still bitter that New Zealand gets to be Middle-earth and not Britain, so rip into the film, there's a good boy - oh be nice to Stott and Nesbitt by the way, we want to do an article on celebrity garden gnomes and they might be useful".

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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Dec 9 2012, 7:00pm

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The Telegraph published an awful article last week [In reply to] Can't Post

Regarding Tolkien fans. They clearly have something against the entire franchise.

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Crunchable Birdses
Nargothrond


Dec 9 2012, 7:03pm

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They gave Two Towers an abysmal review too [In reply to] Can't Post

Can't remember what they gave the other two.

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sauget.diblosio
Dor-Lomin

Dec 9 2012, 7:04pm

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Mark Kermode next Friday [In reply to] Can't Post

I just listened to the most recent Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo podcast (which i very highly recommend) of their UK radio program, and they're having a Hobbit themed episode next Friday, featuring Mark's review of the film in HFR/3D and an interview with Peter Jackson. Mr. Kermode is a fan of the trilogy and P.J., and has had some experience with HFR (he saw Douglas Trumbull's Cinemascan years ago), but is not a fan of 3D so keep that in mind. I'm a big fan of Mark Kermode. He's highly entertaining and very well versed in cinema (he has a PhD in English), but has very broad tastes, including genre fare like Alien and Blade Runner. But he does not mince words, and is famous for his hilarious rants against such films as Transformers and Sex and the City. So i am very much looking forward to his take on The Hobbit, and it will be great to hear their interview with Sir Peter. You can download it for free at iTunes.

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