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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Mithlond
Nov 13 2012, 1:46pm
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The Hobbit = Oscar hope for Warner?
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Although "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" isn't out yet, Warner seems to be very sure about the quality of its movie. They did propose the first Hobbit-movie for 16 Academy Awards to the Academy. I got this information from the German Fan Page "Der Herr der Ringe Film":
BEST PICTURE
CAROLYNNE CUNNINGHAM
ZANE WEINER
FRAN WALSH
PETER JACKSON
BEST DIRECTOR
PETER JACKSON
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
FRAN WALSH &
PHILIPPA BOYENS &
PETER JACKSON &
GUILLERMO DEL TORO
BEST ACTOR
MARTIN FREEMAN
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
IAN McKELLEN
RICHARD ARMITAGE
ANDY SERKIS
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
CATE BLANCHETT
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
ANDREW LESNIE, ACS, ASC
BEST ART DIRECTION
Production Designer
DAN HENNAH
Set Decorators
RA VINCENT
SIMON BRIGHT
BEST FILM EDITING
JABEZ OLSSEN
BEST COSTUME DESIGN
ANN MASKREY
RICHARD TAYLOR
BOB BUCK
BEST MAKEUP
Armour, Weapons, Creatures and Special Makeup
RICHARD TAYLOR
Hair and Makeup Design
PETER SWORDS KING
BEST SOUND MIXING
Production Sound Mixer
TONY JOHNSON
Re-Recording Mixers
CHRISTOPHER BOYES
MICHAEL HEDGES
MICHAEL SEMANICK
BEST SOUND EDITING
BRENT BURGE
CHRIS WARD
BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
JOE LETTERI
ERIC SAINDON
DAVID CLAYTON
R. CHRISTOPHER WHITE
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
HOWARD SHORE
BEST ORIGINAL SONG
“Song of the Lonely Mountain”
Music by
NEIL FINN
DAVID DONALDSON
STEVE ROCHE
JANET RODDICK
DAVID LONG
Lyrics by
NEIL FINN
Performed and Produced by
NEIL FINN
"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."
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Elessar
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Nov 13 2012, 1:57pm
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It will get several of these I believe but I don't think the big haul will come until the end.
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Xanaseb
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Nov 13 2012, 2:01pm
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Perdicting such things is nigh impossible I'm afraid :s.. ... we'll just have to wait and hope.. but awesome compilation! //
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Crunchable Birdses
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Nov 13 2012, 2:05pm
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The Oscars are more about politics than films.
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Jackson got his reward the last time around; the Academy won't be dishing them all out to him again, even if they are the best films ever.
I'd be surprised if The Hobbit trilogy picks up anything other than the technical awards.
It's not gonna happen guys, best get used to it.
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Nov 13 2012, 2:26pm
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I'd be surprised if it even gets nominated for any categories other than technical
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Part of it is what you said, PJ already having gotten everything there is to get for LOTR, part of it is the movies being less Oscar friendly, with which i mean less serious, epic, emotional, and part of it is just me thinking "what are the odds of lightning striking twice?" I'm expecting a great adventure but LOTR was something truly special, something magical one of a kind (to me at least).
If it really gets amazing reviews, it might get a nomination for best movie, since there are up to 10 slots now.
I'd be surprised if The Hobbit trilogy picks up anything other than the technical awards.
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iandea14
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Nov 13 2012, 2:52pm
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I could definitely see some Oscars!
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Dor-Lomin
Nov 13 2012, 5:11pm
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Nobody should expect any big prizes this time around...
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PJ & Co. already had our time in the sun with the Oscars. They made the first fantasy film to ever win Best Picture, and it swept the board with 11 Wins. In Hollywood, the story of the New Zealanders' fantasy film Oscar Victory has already been told.
But that doesn't mean it won't get a bunch of nominations! :) Just don't expect wins in categories like Picture, Director, Screenplay, and the like. I think the films should be able to pick up a good number of techs, though.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
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LoremIpsum
Menegroth
Nov 13 2012, 7:42pm
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and that's probably why TABA will be released during summer and not closer to the awards season
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jtarkey
Nargothrond
Nov 13 2012, 8:37pm
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I think there's a very good chance of Ian Mckellen or Andy Serkis winning an acting Oscar at some point through this trilogy. Gandalf is Ian's most notable role, and IMO he was certainly the best actor throughout the original trilogy. He disappears seamlessly into Gandalf.
"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Nov 13 2012, 8:42pm
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Disagree. They might have a small outside shot...
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...if the movies turn out to be critical darlings. There's no "big chance" for an actor to win an Oscar in a fantasy adventure movie.
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jtarkey
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Nov 13 2012, 8:55pm
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I don't think genre matters in the acting category
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I think the acting does. Look at Heath Ledger. Although I'm sure his death upped his chances, The Dark Knight was a comic book movie that wasn't even nominated for Best Picture. His acting was very obviously incredible though, hence the oscar.
"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Nov 13 2012, 9:08pm
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And as you said, his death might have played into it, even if it might be a somewhat controversial viewpoint.
Well, i think if you are in a genre film you are in a disadvantage, even as an actor. McKellen had his chance with FOTR, i dunno if the Academy would nominate him again for the same role. As for Serkis, there's still the bias against CGI characters.
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starlesswinter
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Nov 13 2012, 9:43pm
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Technical awards, for sure, but this won't be a Best Picture winner. It'll be too "fun" for that.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 13 2012, 9:45pm
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If knowing whether the film is any good or not might be a useful precursor to these predictions.
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Nov 13 2012, 9:55pm
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We are assuming the movie to be good for the purpose of discussion.
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If it turns out not so good then of course no (major) Oscars for Hobbit.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 13 2012, 10:02pm
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How good are we assuming? If we are assuming Oscar worthy good then I'd say yes. If we are assuming not Oscar worthy good then definitely no.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Nov 13 2012, 10:41pm
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Doesn't say "fun" to me. It says serious, dark and rather epic, with some splashes of fun.
Who knows? It is possible this film will knock the socks off the critics.
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Welsh hero
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Nov 13 2012, 10:48pm
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I'd put my bets of it defiantly getting nominated for technical awards
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up to 10 films can be nominated for best picture, so the hobbit has a chance.
Not sure how many 'adapted' films are out this year, but I'd also place my bet on the hobbit getting nominated for this
Large chance for best soundtrack and original song as well.
Although not seen a lot of films this year, so don't know the competition
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 13 2012, 11:38pm
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IMO, a film based on such a classic book should reach for best director, screenplay and film!
We'll see...
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Maiarmike
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Nov 14 2012, 12:41am
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If the film is of the quality of the LotR...
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I will be simply satisfied with a Best Picture nomination. I think technical categories are a lock at this point, with the main competition being against The Avengers and Batman.
I'm not expecting any awards for actors, although to see Sir Ian finally win an Oscar for his Gandalf the Grey role would be fantastic at the end of the trilogy.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Mithlond
Nov 14 2012, 12:56am
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I think technical categories are a lock at this point, with the main competition being against The Avengers and Batman. But don't forget the first use of 48fps,new cameras, new forms of 3D and the development of motion capture. And don't forget the Weta Workshop. "The Avengers" and "Dark Knight Rises" have nothing to beat that. I watched both movies and I really liked both but there was nothing new. "The Avengers" was full of explosions, destructions and falling skycrapers and yes in 3D... but not that special in the age of Transformers and Co. And "Dark Knight Rises"... well it was not that special as well.
I'm pretty sure that AUJ is going to win "Best Visual Effects"
"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."
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Estel78
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Nov 14 2012, 1:17am
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Studios doing Oscar ad campaigns is not necessarily a sign of quality. For instance, WB did the same with Sherlock Holmes, or Disney promoted Alice in Wonderland. So, calm down, everyone. 
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sphdle1
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Nov 14 2012, 2:22am
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Even if the Hobbit wins everything
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It doesn't mean anything, because like the post says (& I totally agree), the Oscars are more about politics.
Just look no further than Avatar, one of the most awesome/greatest films ever made/written (& I bet PJ himself would agree on this), yet it barely came away with a few technical awards...dispite the fact it had the best/most original music score, best story, best directing, best cinematography, not to mention best movie by far that year. I could understand if it made in the range of the Avengers or one of the 'normal' top grossing movies of the year, than it could be chalked up to just great special effects and big budget film with not awesome writing or acting ... but like Titanic, Star Wars (original), LOTR, and other great movies that are phenomenons (whereby people come back for repeat showings over and over, and made record breaking box office numbers), Avatar was beyond the normal top box office numbers and struck a chord with the masses for more than just special effects...
...so what happened at the Oscars? Well as everyone knows, Avatar got completely snubbed without any doubt, because it had a strong political message that favored the environment over big money & capitalism, and a strong political message that put the US Republican party line of thought/policies in a negative light, and thus 'the snub' in the form of another war based film winning it all ... What was it called ??? hmmm can't remember?? oh yeah, The Foot Locker .. I mean the Hurt Locker (had to google it).
So if The Hobbit movies don't get the big awards at the Oscars, it doesn't mean they weren't the best films ever made, nor that they weren't the best story line, best written/special effects/score/etc... It just means that the Director, Producers, Actors, Composer, etc., were too busy working harder to make the best film, with the best writing, best score, etc., instead of playing the political game and spending tons of money on ad campaigns to get 'the nod' which doesn't mean anything.
Remember, the movie that won the big awards last year, the actors didn't even speak a word, and yet they still won ...Huh!? ... if that doesn't prove what a joke it has become, than I don't know what does.
Having said all that, I hope PJ and company don't take out one ad for the Oscar's political popularity game, and still win everything (provided it is indeed an awe inspiring phenomenal film, which I'm sure it will be based on who wrote the original book, who wrote the adaptive screen play, directed, acted, produced it, composed the music, etc.).. ;)
sphdle1
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Harry is the best hope we have. Trust him."
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