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Riddles in the Dark - WB have put up a riddle game
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Aranaes
Rivendell


Oct 3 2012, 6:53am

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Riddles in the Dark - WB have put up a riddle game Can't Post

http://apps.warnerbros.com/thehobbit/riddles/us/

or this one:

http://bit.ly/RiddlesInTheDark

'And I name you elf-friend and blessed. May your shadow never grow less (or stealing would be too easy)!'

(This post was edited by Aranaes on Oct 3 2012, 6:58am)


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 7:12am

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Can't say I agree with the "difficulty" level on some of the riddles [In reply to] Can't Post

It's only easy if you know the answer Wink

Great game though! Makes me even more worried though that PJ has made up a couple of his own riddles for the scene. Crazy

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Eleniel
Grey Havens


Oct 3 2012, 7:35am

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More likely GDT [In reply to] Can't Post

I seem to remember Guillermo being a keen riddler....didn't he set one for fans back in 2008?


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¯ Victoria Monfort






DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 7:45am

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I doubt anything of GDT still exists in the script [In reply to] Can't Post

  
But here is his riddle

Smile

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Oct 3 2012, 7:49am)


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Oct 3 2012, 7:49am

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credits [In reply to] Can't Post

If that was the case, why would they still be giving him screenwriting credits in the trailers? <shrug>


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort






DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 7:51am

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Because he is still attached to the film [In reply to] Can't Post

And I'm sure there are many ideas that were born out of his mind that were still used.

The script undegoes constant revision though. When he was director they hadn't started filming. The script would have undergone endless re-writes once PJ took over. Smile

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dormouse
Half-elven


Oct 3 2012, 8:01am

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The riddles in the Hobbit Album are out of the book... [In reply to] Can't Post

...and this site invites people to submit riddles. I think the non-book ones may just be riddles someone has submitted to the site, or things they've added to make the site more interesting.


ShireHorse
Rohan

Oct 3 2012, 11:14am

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I've always enjoyed riddles [In reply to] Can't Post

ever since I had to study original Anglo-Saxon ones. It's interesting that many of them display the type of humour that the English still have today.

This one is strange/unexpected and even Monty Pythonesque; almost along the lines of a trick question like "What has he got in his pocketses?":

Riddle: What is green and has four wheels?

Answer: [spoiler]Grass. I lied about the wheels![/spoiler]

Who would have thought that the Anglo-Saxons had such an off-the -wall sense of humour?

Edit: Unfortunately, my spoilers haven't worked. If someone can tell me how to do it, I shall put up a rude one to demonstrate where the English got their love of double entendre from. I don't feel I can post it un-spoilered, LOL!


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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 12:38pm

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TORn doesn't have spoiler tags [In reply to] Can't Post

But you can have "hidden" text, by making the font colour the same as the board colour. See this thread. Smile

Regardless of this, I wouldn't post anything rude. We're a sensitive bunch. Tongue

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dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 3 2012, 12:46pm

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Fun [In reply to] Can't Post

Most of those are pretty good. A few have issues with the way the submitter typed the answer that prevent you from getting credit even when you're right. There was only one I couldn't figure out. :)


ShireHorse
Rohan

Oct 3 2012, 1:01pm

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You might be right, Daniel, [In reply to] Can't Post

even if it is an historic Anglo-Saxon riddle and 1000 years old.

So, I shan't post it but for the curious, and in the cause of academic research, here's a link:

http://carlanayland.blogspot.co.uk/...ousand-years-of.html

But, mods, I'm quite happy to delete this or for you to delete it if you feel that even a link is inappropriate. I understand the sensitivities behind things but I was fascinated when our professor told us this joke in a lecture and I even heard it repeated on a BBC history series about the British a few weeks ago.


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 1:58pm

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More suggestive, than out right rude/swearing [In reply to] Can't Post

There's no way I guessed the correct answer ... Let's hope Gollum doesn't say this one!

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Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 3 2012, 2:03pm

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Carry On Saxon? [In reply to] Can't Post

 

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 2:11pm

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I'm sure that there is still plenty of GdT's contributions that will remain [In reply to] Can't Post

Even though the script is constantly undergoing rewrites, much of the original still remains largely unchanged. If you compare the original three film scripts with the final version, you'll find plenty that remains. (I think.)

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 2:23pm

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One riddle [In reply to] Can't Post

Has the line:

My tail "sports" feathers to guide me along.

Really? Sports? That word is more modern than I am...

My guess is that these aren't all from the film, though. There's little to no reason for the excellent riddles from the book to be changed.


Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 3 2012, 2:30pm

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"Sports" [In reply to] Can't Post

as a synonym for "wears" is old, and has fallen out of common usage.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 2:34pm

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Got it [In reply to] Can't Post

Though it hasn't quite fallen out of common usage, as it is very common in the United States.

Plus, it seems the word dates back to the 14th century, which is not so old...


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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 2:37pm

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Some of these are fan-submitted [In reply to] Can't Post

Although I wouldn't be surprised if some of the book riddles will be changed or that entirely different ones will be included, unnecessary though I deem that.

I hope not, but there is no limit in my mind to the possible changes that the filmmakers might make. If they think that this scene (or, for instance, the "good morning" sequence that both of us like so much) would work better in a different way in their film they will do that way.

Whether you and I like it or not!

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 3 2012, 2:40pm

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Craig Williamson [In reply to] Can't Post

The site says that all the non-Tolkien riddles (that I've seen) are from Craig Williamson, author of "A Feast of Creatures: Anglo-Saxon Riddle-Songs" as well as "Beowulf and Other Old English Poems." I don't think they're meaning to suggest these will be in the film.


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Bombadil
Half-elven


Oct 3 2012, 2:41pm

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Daniel I got Confused..Was GDT's answer. ..Time?/// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 2:42pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

This is just a fun game.

And having completed a number of them, I have to say that they are mostly pretty good!


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 2:44pm

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I imagine some still remains [In reply to] Can't Post

Especially actual plots or overall scenes. But the nitty gritty is probably very much PJ.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 2:45pm

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The answer to the riddle was a date [In reply to] Can't Post

The majority of the people guessed it in the the thread Smile

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 3:02pm

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On this one [In reply to] Can't Post

For some reason, I trust that PJ will stick to the book riddles. Just a feeling...


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 3 2012, 3:06pm

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I have the same feeling [In reply to] Can't Post

I just don't trust it.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire

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