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Guillermo
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Apr 20 2008, 3:41am
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A riddle for you all-
Half familiar, half unknown.
A thing it is, ØIt almost is-Ø
This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
The day of the moon will be
when all is revealed to thee
Questions will cease
Answers will please
We“ll learn of the Shire
and all you desire.
At ten minus Three.
Joining to be
Ten minus Eight
Add to the slate
of the two dozen princes
that die without winces.
And add to each day of
the week.
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Laerasėa
Tol Eressea
Apr 20 2008, 4:35am
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ok, so is just the first paragraph the riddle?
the answer is "time"
the second paragraph- you'll tell us the answer on monday? The Shire....hm, does this have something to do with "The Hobbit?" The info comes out "within the next five days" according to IGN (courtesty of Compa Mighty, on Main) (and since you said "half unknown," that sounds like Hobbit/bridge movie- plus, you are posting on TORn, so I'll make a guess that it's LOTR related)
72...hours= three days...join with 24 princes- hours- one day? *whine* I don't like this one...add seventy-two to each day of the week? or add nintey-six? ARRGH!!! I don't like this last paragraph/stanza- whatever- is "the slate of two dozen princes" a day?
Ok, so all I can come up with now is that the answer to the first stanza is "time" and we might be hearing about the Hobbit on Monday...
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Sunflower
Valinor
Apr 20 2008, 5:44am
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Mr. GDT, is this really you? If so, (quoting Bilbo to Gandalf, in Bag End) "Welcome, welcome!" My goodness! We're not used to visitations of this sort, and if this is really you, I hope we have many more!
It sounds as if you are just as excited as we all are and are trying to hold it all in! 
As to your riddle....I'll echo Laerasea and say I'm not that great at this, and let others better than me figure the whole thing out. I guess after all the stops and starts we've had on this project the past 3 years, I've become cautious at being too optimistic. It's been SUCH a long wait and we fans have been waiting oh so patiently!!
While waiting, I've been checking out your website, Del Toro films, and like it very much. Doug Jones's site is great too. Well....it's late at night, must go, but if this is really you...! (Excuse me, I'm a bit awestruck )
Later
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Penthe
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Apr 20 2008, 6:02am
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I wish I were better at riddles.
After Time (stolen from Bilbo of course) all I could guess was seven and eight. But welcome anyway, even if you did hurt my brain.
No improvement is too small or trivial to be worthwhile.
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Sunflower
Valinor
Apr 20 2008, 6:05am
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Well, I'll chance it. I HAVE to.
The first part is, yes, "Time" (digging out my copy of "The Hobbit" here)
The 2nd part sounds like "Within 72 hours"--by Monday night ( am I close?)
But for the life of me, I can't figure out the third. Sorry! (I wish Andy Serkis were here.....he'd know, yes, yess! )
Things do sound encouraging though! I do sincerely hope ALL parties involved in the litigation--New Line, Warners, The Tolkien Estate, as well as Peter Jackson and crew, and yourself, of course (watching as a bystander, that is)---have gotten a settlement that is to their satisfaction. I am dying to hear how all this came about and what the results of the negotiations have been!
Confusticate and bebother all this waiting for news! :) But I know it will all have been worth it.
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CAhobbit
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Apr 20 2008, 6:34am
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Like other's have stated I'm horrible when it comes to riddles. I would never have done well in the dark with a certain hobbit like creature, preeecioussssssss.
Welcome to TORn!
Do not meddle in the affairs of hobbits for we can bite your kneecaps off!
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Elven
Valinor
Apr 20 2008, 6:44am
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Welcome! Welcome!!
Thank goodness it was Bilbo in that cave, I would have eaten, I am not good at Riddles ...
but here's my attempt 
I get that the 'time' (from Bilbos riddle in the Dark)
The day of the moon will be Moon Day is .. Monday
At ten minus Three ... 7
Joining to be
Ten minus Eight ....72
Add to the slate
of the two dozen princes ..... 24
that die without winces.
And add to each day of
the week. .... ? 7 maybe
Is this then something revealed on Monday
or the 24th of April at 7am ... LOL!!
Ah after another thought ,,, monday: 72 + 24 (added to Monday) = Friday! (from where Im standing) - just in time for Fiesta Friday Maybe
I'm not sure I can wait that long
Cheers
Elven
Tolkien was a Capricorn!
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MrCere
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Apr 20 2008, 6:54am
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We can't KNOW it's GDT but it sure feels like him and its fun either way. There are other folks named Guillermo so perhaps one of them has a sense of humor.
So, I think the time portion from Bilbo's riddles is the part we are told at the opening that we are expected to know, as stated before.
I am a little stuck on the part with the princes that die without winces. The only dictionary definition I can find for winces is some variation of flinching or drawing back in pain or fear. I like what you have done with the numbers, but what to make of these winces? Anybody? Buhler? Buhler? Anybody?
I have no choice but to believe in free will.
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
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Kimi
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Apr 20 2008, 7:11am
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Whether or not you're the Guillermo, you're very welcome here!
Throwing my attempt in:
It almost is time.
Monday all will be revealed.
At 7.
I think the "two dozen princes" are the 24 hours in a day. Add two to that, and perhaps we are a mere 26 hours away from a big announcement!
My writing (including The Passing of Mistress Rose)
Do we find happiness so often that we should turn it off the box when it happens to sit there?
- A Room With a View
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MrCere
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Apr 20 2008, 7:15am
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Ahhh check out the brain on Kimi
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I like the 24 hours of the day being equal to 2 dozen princes, certainly better than any thing I have thought of. Time zones surely make any time, 7 for example, pretty tough to figure. In L.A.? In Wellington? In New York? Mexico?
I have no choice but to believe in free will.
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
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Sunflower
Valinor
Apr 20 2008, 7:27am
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"check out the big brain on Kimi!"
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Oh dear, Mr. Cere. And I was set to head off to bed.
I shall now be quoting Samuel L . Jackson/"Pulp Fiction" dialogue in my dreams.
Thanks a lot
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wilsonst541
The Shire
Apr 20 2008, 7:36am
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Ok, so we know the first riddle is TIME, and clearly there is much of it left before a big announcement. I agree that the third paragraph might make reference to differing time zones. Is it possible that, when the announcement comes, GDT and PJ would be broadcasting (joining) from two places, allowing one man's clock to read 2:00 while the other reads 7:00? How many time zones apart is NZ from LA, or wherever else GDT might reside? And yes, 2 dozen (hours) surely die without winces, and we wouldn't have days of the week without them.
At ten minus Three.
Joining to be
Ten minus Eight
Add to the slate
of the two dozen princes
that die without winces.
And add to each day of
the week.
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Elven
Valinor
Apr 20 2008, 7:48am
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I dont know MrCere ... sounds a bit 'fairytale-ish' to me ...
though it rhymes (and thats what counts) ..* place wince emoticon here*
Have a good day 
Cheers
Elven
Tolkien was a Capricorn!
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Kimi
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Apr 20 2008, 7:54am
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is 7 pm (the previous day) in LA.
I think you may have provided the last link!
My writing (including The Passing of Mistress Rose)
Do we find happiness so often that we should turn it off the box when it happens to sit there?
- A Room With a View
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MrCere
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Apr 20 2008, 8:08am
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Hmmmmmmm now THAT's a tasty burger! My girlfriend is a vegitarian, which pretty much makes me a vegitarian too {NT}
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I have no choice but to believe in free will.
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
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Eledhwen
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Apr 20 2008, 8:59am
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I think Kimi got the riddle ...
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and anyway I'm hopeless at them.
Welcome to TORn, Guillermo!
Akaroa jetty, New Zealand, March 2008
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Roheryn
Tol Eressea
Apr 20 2008, 10:52am
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"Time a half moon forty." It's a cryptic answer, because it's really an anagram for a secret message: "A finale from thy moot." I suspect this means that Guillermo has secretly been attending riddle moots and is offering this one as a, well, a finale. Either that or I have no idea what the answer to this riddle is! :-)
Anyways, welcome, Guillermo, and thanks for stretching our brains a bit!
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One Ringer
Tol Eressea
Apr 20 2008, 11:39am
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I'm also sure that Kimi is on to something.
Ash nazg durbatulūk, Ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulūk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
My Upcoming Discussion Leads:
THE TWO TOWERS READING DISCUSSION: The Uruk-Hai - April 21st-27th
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dernwyn
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Apr 20 2008, 12:04pm
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Hmm...well, the first two were easily discerned, and it does look like Kimi et.al. have the proper answer to the third (which was boggling my brain)! Very nicely done, sir.
And welcome to TORn!
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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Laerasėa
Tol Eressea
Apr 20 2008, 1:44pm
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I feel like I forgot my manners- sorry!!
Welcome to TORn!!
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Annael
Immortal
Apr 20 2008, 1:55pm
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I think the answer is "I'll prove to you that it's really me very soon with news you'll love!"
Welcome to our family!
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Laerasėa
Tol Eressea
Apr 20 2008, 1:56pm
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ok, I'm going with that idea!!
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MrCere
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Apr 20 2008, 3:03pm
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Seems the riddle isn't ours alone
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Over on the Hellboy boards the same message was left but this time by somebody official, with an administrator's login. Sure wish we knew for sure. If we can confirm him we will have Altaira give the logon some official status (like "Director") so we can all know for sure.
But with the same thing on the other board under an official log-in, seems pretty likely to be the real deal.
Check it out here
I have no choice but to believe in free will.
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
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Elven
Valinor
Apr 20 2008, 3:48pm
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*SqueeeeL!! Oh My Stars x 1000!! * :D //
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Tolkien was a Capricorn!
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