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Thrain's Key: secret WETA design
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TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 31 2012, 8:25am

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Thrain's Key: secret WETA design Can't Post

After the German newspaper revealed the look of Thrain's key a couple of months ago, and also the calendar featured it quite prominently in Thorin's hand (as well after the reveal of the less detailed keychain)...

the German website HDRF.de exclusively revealed a secret WETA design of Thrain's Key!

http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/...filme/news_92480.php

Very nice details: there is an inscription on the key in Dwarvish. Anyone happens to know Khuzdul here?

Russian LotR/Hobbit Site: henneth-annun.ru

(This post was edited by TheHutt on Aug 31 2012, 8:28am)


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 31 2012, 8:35am

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Really like the key design [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd always imagined it just to be a normal type key. Never thought anything differently.

And don't forget the 3D glasses Tongue


macfalk
Valinor


Aug 31 2012, 8:53am

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Minor pet peeve: [In reply to] Can't Post

That first site you linked looks Russian and not German to me Cool



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.

(This post was edited by macfalk on Aug 31 2012, 8:54am)


TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 31 2012, 8:57am

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Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

The original German site took that article down on Warner's behalf... the Russian one didn't. Wink

Russian LotR/Hobbit Site: henneth-annun.ru


macfalk
Valinor


Aug 31 2012, 9:10am

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Ah [In reply to] Can't Post

By the way, notice the TH count-down clock on that site. We should have one of those here, too! (There it says it's 103 days, 12 hours, 49 minutes and 50 seconds left to the premiere!) Evil



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


Earl
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Aug 31 2012, 9:22am

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The inscription down the blade... [In reply to] Can't Post

... supposedly reads "Durin" and "Heir".



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TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 31 2012, 9:28am

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Nah... [In reply to] Can't Post

That's probably valid for the keychain, but the inscription on the WETA artwork seems longer...



Russian LotR/Hobbit Site: henneth-annun.ru

(This post was edited by TheHutt on Aug 31 2012, 9:29am)


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Aug 31 2012, 9:31am

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True [In reply to] Can't Post

I didn't notice that. I'd love to know what the writing in the artwork means (if they really are real runes).



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dernwyn
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Aug 31 2012, 10:16am

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I concur... [In reply to] Can't Post

The runes along the edge of this key do read "DURIN" and "HEIR", in the style of the runes used on the Map.


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lurtz2010
Rohan

Aug 31 2012, 10:34am

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Is this key the exact same design as the one from Bilbo's book in FOTR? [In reply to] Can't Post

It looks similar but I'm not sure if there's a diffrerence or not.


TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 31 2012, 10:36am

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No, there all the designs are different. [In reply to] Can't Post

In Bilbo's book, the designs of Orcrist, Glamdring and Thorin's Key all look different.

Russian LotR/Hobbit Site: henneth-annun.ru


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 31 2012, 10:40am

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Had never realised before... [In reply to] Can't Post

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Seaber
Rivendell

Aug 31 2012, 10:48am

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Doesn't Gandalf carry Glamdring with him? [In reply to] Can't Post

So the designers would know what it looked like, unless it got a redesign.

Or Bilbo forgot.


TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 31 2012, 10:51am

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Or, more simple... [In reply to] Can't Post

When Daniel Reeve made Bilbo's book he had no idea how the real designs would look like.

Russian LotR/Hobbit Site: henneth-annun.ru


lurtz2010
Rohan

Aug 31 2012, 10:51am

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If that was an early design of Glamdring then thank god they changed it [In reply to] Can't Post

perhaps Bilbo just decided to make it his own, bless him.


TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 31 2012, 10:53am

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Also, his book shows... [In reply to] Can't Post

Thorin's harp on a different page.

Russian LotR/Hobbit Site: henneth-annun.ru


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 31 2012, 10:54am

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Glamdring isn't too disimilar to the actual prop [In reply to] Can't Post

I think they look roughly the same. It's the key and Orcrist that look nothing alike. Since Bilbo drew these during FOTR, I'd accept that fact that he had "forgotten". But in reality, it's just a continuity mistake.


Seaber
Rivendell

Aug 31 2012, 10:56am

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Just reading the text [In reply to] Can't Post

That's not Thorin's key (unless that is on a diferent page to the one Daniellb posted) it's the key to the Troll's cave


Seaber
Rivendell

Aug 31 2012, 10:58am

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Orcrist looks similar to Glamdring does with the curved hilt [In reply to] Can't Post

But Glamdring in that book looks nothing like any sword I remember from the trilogy.


DanielLB
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Aug 31 2012, 10:58am

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Ha! Great spot Seaber! :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

That's the only shot of a key in the Red Book.


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 31 2012, 11:02am

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Don't forget, it's a only a rough sketch of the sword [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes the hilt is different, and Glamdring doesn't have the "crown" end, but it's similar. Not a stretch of the imagination to believe they are the same sword. Smile


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Aug 31 2012, 3:45pm

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That's the key to the troll cave [In reply to] Can't Post

And Glamdring does look like a basically accurate simple drawing of the real thing. Orcrist is different (I admit to liking this version better!) but there's a good reason for that...

Now for the real conversation. Will PJ go back and edit FOTR, and add in the new Orcrist design? Will Frodo shoot first?

Discuss!


(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Aug 31 2012, 3:45pm)


Seaber
Rivendell

Aug 31 2012, 4:28pm

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I still can't see the similarity between the Glamdrings. [In reply to] Can't Post

The hilt is curved on the 'real' one and straight on the drawn one.


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 31 2012, 4:33pm

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Details, details! And memory loss! [In reply to] Can't Post

Draw a picture of Glamdring in 60 years, you'll get the same result Wink


Seaber
Rivendell

Aug 31 2012, 4:36pm

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I would LOVE to read that book. Bilbo's handwriting is lovely.

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