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EXCLUSIVE: New Line registers Hobbit movie titles
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dave_lf
Gondor

Jul 31 2012, 5:43pm

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Cost [In reply to] Can't Post

Anyone have any idea how much time/effort/money it costs to register a film title?


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 6:18pm

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NOW I understand that line in the front page article [In reply to] Can't Post

I was well and truly confused as to why these names would mean that the first title could change


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......for nether Night its marches drear,
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Marionette
Rohan


Jul 31 2012, 6:23pm

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I like that (+ Bilbo´s journey) [In reply to] Can't Post

I like that. Fire and Water. Instead of the other titles that focus directly to some Hobbit´s events.

I hope they keep the original titles, and name the middle-movie with something related with Bilbo´s journey, after all The Hobbit is Bilbo´s journey, and so Unexpected Journey and There and Back Again.

The middle title needs to be the same style of Unexpected Journey and There and Back Again, or something close. Not an specific event CrazyCrazy

If not they will need to change all titles... I guess


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shadowdog
Rohan

Jul 31 2012, 6:26pm

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In that case [In reply to] Can't Post

Film two would be The Hobbit: There and Film three would be The Hobbit: Back Again. Smile


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 31 2012, 6:34pm

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Or how about [In reply to] Can't Post

Film 1: There...
Film 2: Well, Still Getting There...
Film 3: There! And Back Again...


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 7:03pm

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Good observation [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe The Hobbit: There and Back Again will be the title of the box set?


imin
Valinor


Jul 31 2012, 7:14pm

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Haha that would be great! :P // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 31 2012, 7:14pm

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An excellent suggestion. {NT} [In reply to] Can't Post

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 31 2012, 7:21pm

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Thank you Flagg, [In reply to] Can't Post

it means a lot to me that you should think so.

Now not to flood the thread more than needed, I would like to add here that "The Battle of Five Armies" has a flat ring to it, as others have remarked. However, I'm guessing the title will take on a special magnificence after we see it on screen -- especially now that they have the time to really give us a play by play.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 7:21pm

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Appropriate Titles [In reply to] Can't Post

I like them both.

I like "There and Back Again" as an over-arching title, but that may be a bit much added to "The Hobbit". ? Crazy

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 31 2012, 7:32pm

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By both rumours, do you mean this one as well as [In reply to] Can't Post

the domain names one? Registering domain names is as much about staking out territory as it is about one's intentions to actually use the name for something.

Perhaps they have some games in mind, or even the names of theme park rides, and are simply trying to block others from capitalizing on the names in future?


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 7:50pm

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Mightn't "The Clouds Burst" make people think the Weather Channel has gotten into theatrical distribution? :P // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 31 2012, 8:14pm

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"Smaug Bursts" might gain some more interest? ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 8:37pm

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'Fire and Water' does have a nice ring to it [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm afraid I can't quite get behind The Hobbit: The Clouds Burst as a title. There's just something mildly goofy about that word – it's hard to imagine audiences taking to it.

And I suppose The Hobbit: Queer Lodgings is out of the question.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 31 2012, 8:44pm

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I can't stop laughing [In reply to] Can't Post


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And I suppose The Hobbit: Queer Lodgings is out of the question.


Laugh

"The Hobbit: Not At Home" could have two meanings.

Perhaps they want to insert a 10 minute scene of the Sackville-Baggins burgling Bag End, while Bilbo does the same to Smaug.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 8:48pm

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Don't give PJ any ideas! [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually, the Sackville-Baggins Break-In would necessitate a fourth film of its own. Tongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 31 2012, 8:49pm)


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 31 2012, 8:54pm

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OT: Isn't it interesting... [In reply to] Can't Post

How Thorin learns to be more generous: valuing food, cheer and song over hoarded gold. But Bilbo seems to learn the exact opposite lesson when he goes home and hoards his earnings in Bag End after kicking the Sackville-Bagginses out - who BTW were only trying to share with the hobbit community! Bilbo's return home is a little like Thorin's greed-driven attempt to reclaim his gold. Crazy


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2012, 9:00pm

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:s man... is it me or this rollercoaster of Hobbit news just gets crazier and crazier? *sigh* I don't like these titles tbh [In reply to] Can't Post

...oh well...(seems to be a common reaction to all news nowadays) Wink

btw, Shelob, Tol Eressea!! :D congratz.

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hasufel
Rivendell


Jul 31 2012, 10:36pm

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Future game titles, nothing more... [In reply to] Can't Post

I truly believe that the Desolation of Smaug and The Battle of Five Armies would be great video games.

Look at the Lord of the Rings video games that have come out the last several years:

The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest



The Lord of the Rings: War in the North



The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard



The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan
To me the above are similiar to the new Hobbit titles.


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Jul 31 2012, 11:06pm

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Given that they won't use "There and Back Again" for the final film [In reply to] Can't Post

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
The Hobbit: Fire and Water
The Hobbit: The Gathering of the Clouds

And I demand a short film on the blu-ray disk set titled "The Hobbit: Roast Mutton"

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(This post was edited by painjoiker on Jul 31 2012, 11:07pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 31 2012, 11:22pm

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They can still use "There and Back Again" [In reply to] Can't Post

The titles don't have to fully represent the content of each film. In film 3, Bilbo is still "there" (Erebor), and still goes "back again" (Hobbiton). No need to change it.


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Jul 31 2012, 11:40pm

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I agree to that :D [In reply to] Can't Post

So the only new name could be "Fire and Water" which I've now grown to like very much! ^^

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imin
Valinor


Jul 31 2012, 11:42pm

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Too similar to GoT for me [In reply to] Can't Post

A Song of Fire and Ice is the book name for the series.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 31 2012, 11:50pm

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I have to say ... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not a fan of Fire and Water.

The Desolation of Smaug has been my favourite so far. Tongue


pulpfiction16
Rivendell

Jul 31 2012, 11:58pm

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No clouds please! [In reply to] Can't Post

One of the most cliched notions of chapter titling or subtitling always has something to do with clouds, storms or gathering. It's way too obvious "The Gathering Shadow", "The Gathering Clouds" "The Gathering Evil" "The Dark Storm". I think Robert Jordan's last book (post-humous) has a subtitle like "Gathering Clouds". No thank you! It's about as irksome as the use of "Rise of .." in a title.

Regardless, the only title that doesn't bother me much out of that list is Desolation of Smaug, just because I don't think I've ever seen the word Desolation in a title before, so, it's got points for standing out.

I always found the actual name of the battle "Battle of the Five Armies" to be distinctly cheesy, even if it's in Tolkien's work. Anything other than that, please.

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