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IncredibleSmaug
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Apr 19 2012, 7:55am
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48 fps cinema upgrades
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/peter-jackson-hobbit-48-frames-per-second-rate-james-cameron-313867
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guitarzankansasfan
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Apr 19 2012, 9:58am
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The Hobbit: An Unfinished Journey
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Caught a typo in the title of the film as written in the article. Gosh I hope the theaters are expecting more than just an unfinished journey :)
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QuackingTroll
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Apr 19 2012, 10:28am
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Interesting thing about high frame rates...
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At least, in 60fps. When the person on-screen is looking directly at the camera (which I assume won't happen in The Hobbit) it's kind of uncomfortable. With 24fps you know you're just looking at a picture, but at 60 it looks so real, you get a very odd sensation looking into people's eyes... I've only seen this in 2D, I imagine it's even weirder with an extra dimension.
"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"
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Chopsta123
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Apr 19 2012, 10:32am
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6-12TB per day! lets say they shoot 10 TB per day that means the storagespace for the whole production is about 2.5 million gigabyte! *head blown*
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DanielLB
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Apr 19 2012, 10:33am
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what was it that you saw at 60fps?
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Doriath
Apr 19 2012, 1:34pm
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When I was doing a course in animation we got to play with some pretty neat cameras. I haven't seen a 4K display, but the monitors we had were capable of displaying 60fps footage. We shot various test stuff - balls bouncing and people talking and things. It doesn't necessarily look better, but it looks noticably different and more real. I remember a friend on the course described it as "too real" and said they'd hate films to use it, but I personally prefer it. It'll be interesting to see how it works with a movie, when your eyes have 3 hours to get used to the look.
"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"
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Owain
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Apr 19 2012, 4:55pm
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i would't leave it to that, DanielLB...
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There is a shocking amount of people in Cinemas who know nothing about the tech that they work with. A lot of projectionists struggle with the new tech. I provided a link for the boards earlier this year, I believe, that showed all of the cinemas in N. America that will have 4K projection.
I'll see if I can dig it up for you.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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DanielLB
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Apr 19 2012, 4:57pm
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I'm from the UK though  Would be a bit far to travel to see The Hobbit ... or is it?! 
My local cinema is a large chain over here, so I'll be checking with their hotline/helpdesk, rather than the individual cinema itself. Thanks anyway Owain 
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Owain
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Apr 19 2012, 5:01pm
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Actually the link has info for theaters world-wide.
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Hang on a sec... digging it up.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
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DanielLB
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Apr 19 2012, 6:02pm
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According to it, there are no cinemas near me that have 4K projection ...........
(sorry for my previous assumption )
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Owain
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Apr 19 2012, 6:04pm
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I'm from the UK though Would be a bit far to travel to see The Hobbit ... or is it?! Not if you travel by map. It's much faster. Sorry couldn't resist a Muppets reference.
Middle Earth is New Zealand! "Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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QuackingTroll
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Apr 19 2012, 6:19pm
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Can I ask what part of the UK you're from? //
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"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"
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DanielLB
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Apr 19 2012, 6:24pm
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Looks like the nearest one is Cambridge
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R11
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Apr 19 2012, 6:29pm
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At least, in 60fps. When the person on-screen is looking directly at the camera (which I assume won't happen in The Hobbit) it's kind of uncomfortable. With 24fps you know you're just looking at a picture, but at 60 it looks so real, you get a very odd sensation looking into people's eyes... I've only seen this in 2D, I imagine it's even weirder with an extra dimension.
With no movement, it would have no effect. The only time the picture will look different is when there is motion in the frame.
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QuackingTroll
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Apr 19 2012, 6:59pm
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The reason eyes look different...
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Is because of the speed that a person's eyes twitch or blink is nearly undetectable at 24fps. (Slow down a blink in a film, you'll see what I mean). This makes the eyes regester as unnatural to us, but sped up the eyes seem to have more soul behind them. As you say, perfectly static shots aren't effected, but shots, even with very little movement, can look much smoother and nicer with an increased frame-rate.
"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"
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duats
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Apr 19 2012, 8:14pm
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I'll have to remember to call my theater ahead of time to see if they've made the upgrade.
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DanielLB
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Apr 19 2012, 8:20pm
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You will already be able to check
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TheCoon
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Apr 20 2012, 8:50am
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i emailed my imax theater like forever ago
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long story short theyre ON IT!!!!!! (my imax theater is a bit of a distance compared to my norlal theater if only they had imax but im going there for this one!!!!)
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DanielLB
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Apr 20 2012, 9:04am
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I am slightly concerned that there are no cinemas around me that show 4k projection. I don't really understand much of this techno stuff anyway. Can someone explain to us lay-people what we need to look out for, so that we are seeing the film, we are seeing it how it's supposed to be seen 
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TheCoon
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Apr 20 2012, 9:29am
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didnt really ask about the projection
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i was more concerned with 48 fps
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TFP
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Apr 20 2012, 10:40am
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OK, thanks. Looks like there are a fair number in Blighty. Vue, Apollo, Everyman, & Showcase cinemas.
I think I might try & book to watch in one of the big [London] West End ones in the first couple of nights.
Will entire multiplexes be kitted out or just their one or two biggest screens?
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