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Maiarmike
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Jun 17 2011, 12:13am
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Deadline Confirms Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug...Also...
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apparently, he is also voicing the Necromancer, whatever that means...
Speculation time.
http://www.deadline.com/...smaug-in-the-hobbit/
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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lurtz2010
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Jun 17 2011, 12:19am
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Maybe PJ will confirm this on fb sometime today
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Jun 17 2011, 12:19am
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Interesting...
I've had this theory for awhile, that they will use the Necromancer as an independant Character from Sauron.
The more I think about it -the more I like it! Probably wont happen and if it did fans wouldn't be happy...
What do you think? I think the villian would be more interesting if he/she were original rather than bogged down with the "I'm really Sauron" stuff (Especially because they will also have to cover the eye thing)
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Maiarmike
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Jun 17 2011, 12:23am
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He's not known to be Sauron until the wise figure it out, so he's kind of disguising himself and most likely his voice. Kind of glad they didn't make it obvious by having Sala Baker. I'm guessing Benedict is going to do something very different for each character though.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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Jim
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Jun 17 2011, 12:25am
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The voice for Smaug AND Necromancer. Didn't expect that, Smaug yes but if confirmed by PJ looks like Sauron will have dialog in the films.
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duats
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Jun 17 2011, 12:47am
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Wow. Voicing both of the main antagonists? Cumberbatch must be on Cloud 9.
Needless to say, I am thrilled to bits. Easily one of my favorite casting choices on these films. Just superb.
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Jun 17 2011, 12:59am
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I completely stand corrrected on this one if true
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....I am just getting too old. Lovely to see BC in this role.
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Estel78
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Jun 17 2011, 1:02am
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Personally, i'm no fan of one actor doing two roles/voices.
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One could hear Gimli in Treebeard.
Why not taking two actors? I'm sure there are a lot of talented voice actors out there. Oh well, let's wait and see (hear)...
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duats
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Jun 17 2011, 1:03am
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He will provide the motion capture for Smaug, eh?
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Let the months of speculation begin.
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rings7
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Jun 17 2011, 1:43am
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Love it. It's great that it's finally confirmed.
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Smaug will have a heck of a voice! And this will be like an introduction for Benedict as a new generation of "voices" in movies besides Liam Neeson, James Earl Jones, Hugo Weaving, etc.
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Jun 17 2011, 1:49am
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Well, that's almost too good to be true... 
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rings7
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Jun 17 2011, 1:51am
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I'm excited about Benedict being Smaug, but not too much about him voicing another character as well. 
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duats
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Jun 17 2011, 1:57am
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I imagine The Necromancer's voice will have quite a bit of distortion (to give it that supernatural, ethereal quality).
I wouldn't have minded JRD voicing Treebeard if they had bothered to modify his voice a bit more. Instead, they essentially left it as it was. Hopefully they don't make that same mistake here.
The other problem was that JRD didn't bother to change his voice all that much from the start. But some actors are able to convingingly change their voices to the point of being unrecognizable. I need only point to our very own Andy Serkis.
Hopefully Cumberbatch possesses that talent.
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 17 2011, 1:57am
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Ahhh... now that THAT's settled
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AND that we have Bard ready... *rubs hands together* I'm feeling like this is all ready to ROCK n ROLL!!!!! *twitch* SWEEEEEEEEET!
 
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 17 2011, 2:32am
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The Production needs to confirm these castings.
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Until that happens they are just rumors.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 17 2011, 2:34am
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PJ needs to confirm.
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Maiarmike
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Jun 17 2011, 2:45am
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Mike Fleming at Deadline is pretty accurate most of the time.
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They don't usually claim exclusive casting stories unless they are 100% right. They must have heard something from WB, perhaps. I'm sure we'll be hearing from PJ or other cast members soon about this.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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Pete
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Jun 17 2011, 3:24am
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Did an excellent job as the voice of Sauron and The One Ring. I was holding out hope they'd ask him back. But I'm sure BC will do an excellent job in both roles... as long as they don't sound too much alike. As much as I love John-Rhys Davis I couldn't help but hear Gimli every now and then in Treebeard's lines.
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Mooseboy018
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Jun 17 2011, 3:28am
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I don't think that will happen.
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PJ has already made it pretty clear that the Necromancer will still be Sauron.
I think having him as a separate character would be a little pointless anyway. The whole point of the Dol Guldur plot is that the Necromancer turns out to be Sauron.
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Garfeimao
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Jun 17 2011, 3:36am
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Alan Howard could still be the ring because I bet we still get to hear it make itself known to Bilbo.
And this is great if accurate, BC will be awesome in both roles, and I don't imagine he'll be seen much in either.
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Pete
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Jun 17 2011, 5:32am
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I just had a terrible thought...
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What if Smaug and the Necromancer are allied in these films? I mean, I doubt the fact the BC may be voicing both characters but I just hope PJ and crew don't tie to two villians together just for the hell of it.
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titanium_hobbit
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Jun 17 2011, 6:10am
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I wonder if with BC voicing both, it means that we won't be seeing Smaug and N in the same scenes, as we didn't with Gimli and Treebeard. Too confusing, too similar, too complicated...
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Bound
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Jun 17 2011, 6:28am
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Voiced a other characters in Lord of the rings bar Gollum. I agree (as others have discussed here before) that John R. Davis voicing of Treebeard was a slight bit distracting. But if an actor can change his voice - much like Andy can, then there should be no issue..
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Maiarmike
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Jun 17 2011, 7:22am
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Smaug seemed to be a lone-wolf when it comes to villainy, I don't think he wants to share with anyone else, despite the fear from the White Council that Smaug may be forced under Sauron's rule. I doubt they'll be in any scenes together either, since they're really on opposite sides of the geography. One is in the middle of a dungeon in Mirkwood, and the other is hiding in a mountain most of the time until he goes to Esgaroth.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 17 2011, 8:20am
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I doubt The Ring speaks in the Hobbit.
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A speaking ring would certainly alert Gandalf and would complicate the beginning of Fellowship.
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