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Rob Kazinsky is leavin TH
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ringer5150
The Shire


Apr 24 2011, 9:18am

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Rob Kazinsky is leavin TH Can't Post

Pj just updated his facebook. He says for personal reasons.

http://www.facebook.com/...li/10150233459761558

Maybe Guillermo was meant to just write the hobbit and PJ was meant to direct it. And that is an encouraging thought.

(This post was edited by ringer5150 on Apr 24 2011, 9:19am)


RaoulJ
Rivendell


Apr 24 2011, 9:21am

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Wow... [In reply to] Can't Post

This is some sad news.

This was a role of a lifetime... It takes something big to say goodbye to The Hobbit. I hope he is okay.


(This post was edited by RaoulJ on Apr 24 2011, 9:24am)


RaoulJ
Rivendell


Apr 24 2011, 9:26am

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Check the 'reply section' [In reply to] Can't Post

B.o.B. is trying to score the Fili part...


Bound
Rohan


Apr 24 2011, 9:27am

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sad news... [In reply to] Can't Post

He seemed to really be into it...

Peter has had some really bad luck with casting... Stuart Townsend in Lord of the rings, Ryan Gosling in Lovely bones, and now this..

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Bound
Rohan


Apr 24 2011, 9:29am

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who? [In reply to] Can't Post

?

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LoremIpsum
Lorien


Apr 24 2011, 9:32am

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That's awful [In reply to] Can't Post

he was so enthusiastic about the movie and the role Unsure Hope everything is OK with him and his family.


Welsh hero
Gondor


Apr 24 2011, 9:36am

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No :( [In reply to] Can't Post

I loved his little updates.

Hope they can replace him with another brilliant actor

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Mithrandír
Lorien


Apr 24 2011, 9:37am

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sad news indeed [In reply to] Can't Post

But it must be something important.

It's sad he will miss this opportunity though, he seemed very enthusiastic.

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RaoulJ
Rivendell


Apr 24 2011, 9:39am

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B.O.B. [In reply to] Can't Post

Bob is a Torn'er, although he hasn't been posting on this site for a while. His nickname is Bond of Blood (Bob) and he said he was trying to get a role in The Hobbit a while ago.

I was under the assumption that he was cast as he was making subtle (or not so subtle) remarks of doing make-up tests/trying a beard and being excited. (Later he said he wasn't cast)

Some people believed him or were supporting him. I don't want to stir up this, but he exaggerated his acting-work, in my opinion.

But all that aside, he is still trying to get cast and of course it would be fun to have one of 'us' in The Hobbit.


edit: Here is the link to the last conversation I had with him about his involvement: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=282726#282726


(This post was edited by RaoulJ on Apr 24 2011, 9:43am)


Bound
Rohan


Apr 24 2011, 9:41am

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ahh right.. [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool for him...

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Ataahua
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Apr 24 2011, 9:43am

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Oh no. [In reply to] Can't Post

That's terrible news. Just when we thought all the bad news was behind us, an actor leaves.

I hope everything works out for Rob, and that Pete finds another great Fili.

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Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
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Bound
Rohan


Apr 24 2011, 9:50am

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Robert Kazinky's Twitter statement [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for all your support, Peter and team have been the most wonderful and supportive team to work for and it's with a truly sad heart that things have turned out this way. The Hobbit will go on to be as great as i've seen and I will miss the family and friends that i've here, From every disaster i've tried to make an opportunity. "john d rokerfeller"

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RaoulJ
Rivendell


Apr 24 2011, 9:50am

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His twitter acount, [In reply to] Can't Post

...where he drops some lines about this. No details yet though

http://twitter.com/#!/robertkazinsky


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 24 2011, 10:12am

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I have become freinds with B.O.B. on Facebook [In reply to] Can't Post

He is an actor with extensive work in New Zealand. I have viewed some of his work and he would be a good choice for a Dwarf. I would wish him good luck.

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lurtz2010
Rohan

Apr 24 2011, 10:26am

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is it possible he just got lazy? [In reply to] Can't Post

and couldn't be bothered with the hard work of filming the movies anymore?


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 24 2011, 10:31am

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I am shocked [In reply to] Can't Post

what would lead you to say such a thing? There must be something really huge that happened in this man's life to let go of such an opportunity.

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Runk Snusgrop
Rivendell


Apr 24 2011, 10:31am

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What ever made you think that?

He seemed as energetic and enthusiastic as anyone.



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DrDeath153
Lorien

Apr 24 2011, 10:33am

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Damn. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's stating the obvious to say this is a horrible shock, and all the more for the as yet unknown underlying reasons for his departure- they would have to be pretty severe for him to call an end to something that has not just taken 6 months of preparation but also would provide him with a once in a lifetime job opportunity and a huge boost to his profile. Although it's not good taste to speculate on the source of his tragedy before he is ready (if he ever will be) to reveal it himself, you can't help but wonder what it must be for him to surrender this opportunity entirely, something that could not be covered by a period of leave

Whatever the case though, he is a sad loss to the project, possibly the most enthusiastic of all the actors involved and a truly promising talent. I don't really know what else to say to be honest- i just wish him the very best of luck when circumstance allows him to return to the fray.

Dr Death


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Welsh hero
Gondor


Apr 24 2011, 10:42am

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It's more likely a family member has died [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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farmer maggot
Rivendell

Apr 24 2011, 10:48am

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Agreed 100%, a true LOTR geek with a once in a lifetime opportunity [In reply to] Can't Post

We may be proved wrong but I think only something bad, probably very bad can have caused this disaster (his words) for him. Let's hope it isn't something truly tragic and wish him luck. Rest assured that the UK press will be all over this to find out as we speak!


Bound
Rohan


Apr 24 2011, 10:50am

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No one knows why he has left. He might have some family emergency at home. He might be suffering from severe homesickness, he might be sick, he might be anything. The truth is, right now, no one knows but don't go around making assumptions.

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lurtz2010
Rohan

Apr 24 2011, 10:56am

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no disrespect [In reply to] Can't Post

Does sound pretty bad doesn't it if it's actually a death or something. mods can delete the post. I remember in the press conference vid he seemed the most enthusiastic and was saying TH was "THE movie"... I thought he was the best of the new cast so far


dormouse
Half-elven

Apr 24 2011, 11:02am

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That's really sad... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but whatever the reason, I hope he's OK and things will sort themselves out for him.


Maiarmike
Grey Havens


Apr 24 2011, 11:12am

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That's terrible! :( [In reply to] Can't Post

I feel for the guy tremendously. The good news seems to be that it doesn't affect filming, but I do wonder how they make this work with the unexpected party? Do they just edit out Rob and replace him with another actor filmed quickly? Should be interesting to see the developments in the coming days. The only logistical thing that seems like it would be a problem, is that the new actor wouldn't have the months of training that Rob has had...

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(This post was edited by Maiarmike on Apr 24 2011, 11:15am)


DrDeath153
Lorien

Apr 24 2011, 11:51am

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Well there's the prosthetic issue too [In reply to] Can't Post

Unlike Aragorn who could pretty much just slip into costume (unless they actually completely reworked it following his casting) and act, the actor has to be cast, go to new-zealand, get a head cast, have the prosthetics worked out (though they will probably reuse as much of the Fili make-up as possible), get fitted and kitted with minimal fight training (that was another of the great advantages of Rob Kazinsky- he did know his way around a sword) and then and only then be able to join the dwarven cast. While none of those things will slow down the juggernaut of production too much, it is quite a significant amount of prep-work to suddenly have to redo in the midst of filming and production.

The other option, and one that's been used countless times when dealing with twins in films is simply to cast one actor and replicate them. Depending on how similar the look of Fili and Kili is that could be achieved either by pure identical replication, or given that these are dwarves we're talking about, a few judicious alterations to Aidan Turner's look to double as Fili too. This i'd actually consider to be the most respectful way to deal with Rob Kazinsky's departure since it would mean he wouldn't have to spend the rest of his life knowing that some johnny come-lately got to finish off his 'big break', it would just be his already established, trained and hopefully good mate Aidan Turner, who would have got the break even without his departure.

Dr Death

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