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NewZeasYT
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Oct 27 2014, 7:08am
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Trailer this week?
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Anyone else think we will see the trailer this week?
I was really expecting it to be released last week but I think due to Age of Ultron they've rescheduled it.
Reason I think it's this week is because PJ told us it would be here before the end of October.
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Fleuz
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Oct 27 2014, 7:28am
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Maybe then they're releasing a Teaser for the Trailer to be aired Wednesday next week. The Trailers were always released on a Wednesday, if I remember correctly.
But I will of course keep my eyes on Alberta and BBFC...
BTW: SADIST! 
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lidlessEye
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Oct 27 2014, 7:58am
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no, they were released all on tuesday (except for the trailer for AUJ)
And PJ saying, before the end of october...i don't trust this man any more - he also said last july - expect the next vlog in a few weeks...which was december then (one week before the release of DOS)
I'm pretty disappointed in how the anticipation of the fans is treated this time, since its the last time, we ever could have this anticipation. There only remains 1,5 months whereas the anticipation for the last movies and the LotR-movies aroused since September.
PJ stole me 1,5 months of anticipation.
And this time I really don't care, if its the last movie of a trilogy (this was different back then in 2003)
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Cirashala
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Oct 27 2014, 8:04am
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Tuesday for us, Wednesday for others
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Remember the International Date Line? 
I am in the US, and when it's Tuesday here (unless we're talking about three in the morning  ) it's already Wednesday in New Zealand.
So it's quite possible that both of you are correct on the day, and the calendar date itself is different simply because of your geographical locations 
Perhaps a better indicator of actual trailer release should go by NZ day of release, since that's where it's hailing from. That way, everyone on the board will be able to figure out the day simply by looking for that and, depending on geographical location, can subtract a day if needed (cuts down on the math too) 
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caglarkuraner
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Oct 27 2014, 8:10am
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Age of Ultron:
it's not rating Alberta or BBFC. But it came.
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Fleuz
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Oct 27 2014, 8:19am
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was a leak and Warner quickly released it officially. It got ratet the same day.
I don't think such a mistake is being repeated for BOFA.
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Arannir
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Oct 27 2014, 8:19am
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"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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SafeUnderHill
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Oct 27 2014, 8:19am
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Anyone else think we will see the trailer this week?
I was really expecting it to be released last week but I think due to Age of Ultron they've rescheduled it.
Reason I think it's this week is because PJ told us it would be here before the end of October.
When did he say before the end of October?
I'm fairly sure he said 'around' October, which could mean November. It'll come eventually so relax.
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Arannir
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Oct 27 2014, 8:21am
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He said around October.
And he seemed determined not to release any trailer that would have too much unfinished CGI.
These things cannot be planned 100% - especially the Vlogs that cannot and should not be the priority right now.
Other than that... I really hope they make it before Interstellar.
Because not having it play in front of the first week of as many Interstellar screenings as possible will be a ridiculous marketing failure.
Because that is why the trailer is important - for marketing. Not to serve some fans with a weird sense of entitlement (covering impatience).
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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SafeUnderHill
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Oct 27 2014, 8:23am
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no, they were released all on tuesday (except for the trailer for AUJ)
And PJ saying, before the end of october...i don't trust this man any more - he also said last july - expect the next vlog in a few weeks...which was december then (one week before the release of DOS)
I'm pretty disappointed in how the anticipation of the fans is treated this time, since its the last time, we ever could have this anticipation. There only remains 1,5 months whereas the anticipation for the last movies and the LotR-movies aroused since September.
PJ stole me 1,5 months of anticipation.
And this time I really don't care, if its the last movie of a trilogy (this was different back then in 2003)
The trailer will be released 'around October', it will come out eventually. PJ didn't steal any anticipation, it's more down to the studio to decide marketing plans. Also, you seem to be doing pretty well to not forget the film seeing as you're on these forums, and you've got plenty of prior hobbit films, EEs, soundtracks and appendices to keep you occupied.
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lidlessEye
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Oct 27 2014, 8:24am
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Warner has nothing to do with Marvel-Films^^
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Fleuz
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Oct 27 2014, 8:38am
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not Warner.
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dormouse
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Oct 27 2014, 8:47am
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Nobody has stolen anything from you
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If you like the films the anticipation of the next one comes from within yourself - you look forward to it because you want to see it. Lots of people here are doing that quite happily, and in the last few weeks we've been bombarded with material to feed the interest - posters, new stills, magazine articles, the EE of Desolation of Smaug and its documentaries for those who can/want to download. I'm waiting for the DVD, so I'm still anticipating that.
As for not trusting Peter Jackson, have you really no experience at all of the difference between saying you'll do something with every intention of doing it, and finding when the moment comes that you can't, for whatever reason? That's all that's happening here. The man is not 'lying to fans'. If he wanted to - and I'm quite certain he doesn't - it wouldn't be in his interest. I'd have thought it should be obvious by now that something is getting in the way of his intention to do the various things he has talked about. I haven't a clue what because I'm not there and I think speculating about such things is pointless at best and at worst destructive, because people start believing in their own guesses. Call it pressure of work and leave it at that.
It's down to you, really. If you want to enjoy the build-up to the films look around at all the things that have been released already and all the snippets of news. It is all there if you only open your eyes, and there's plenty to think about and discuss. And the trailer will come when it comes - so cheer up!
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Arvida
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Oct 27 2014, 8:58am
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They don't want Avengers' trailer to steal whatever thunder the Hobbit trailer creates. So it's better for them to hold off until the masses have calmed down and then release their trailer for a better impact. I'm thinking it will come first week of November, as the Avengers' trailer was planned to be released this week IIRC.
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leonmuse
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Oct 27 2014, 9:15am
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This late to the game, let's go without a trailer!
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Might as well go to the theather totally blind!
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Arannir
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Oct 27 2014, 9:27am
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Maybe Bot5A will get some additional promotion via the trailers/teasers that might be attached to it.
Apparantly Jurassic World will have its teaser before Bot5A and, more importantly, Williams is rumoured to score the Star Wars teaser in November... remembering that there were people camping outside cinemas to get into the movie the "Phantom Menace" teaser was attached to (The Siege and A Bug's Life) without staying for the movie they paid for , this might actually bring in some cash from people who wouldn't have watched the Hobbit anymore.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
(This post was edited by Arannir on Oct 27 2014, 9:32am)
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Spriggan
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Oct 27 2014, 9:28am
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Trailers are not in the business of serving fan anticipation
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They are created to persuade people who might not otherwise go to see the film to buy a ticket. Therefore, they are released at the time when the marketing team judge (rightly or wrongly) they will generate the most ticket sales.
I think to imagine them to have any other function or nature is to invite frustration.
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QuackingTroll
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Oct 27 2014, 12:24pm
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This!! People seem to have forgotten what a trailer is for!
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It's for marketing, not giving fans something to look at while they wait.
Why is everyone so desperate to see a load of out if context shots of a movie they know they're going to see in a month or so anyway??
Trailers are there to convince audiences that otherwise may not watch the film, to buy a ticket and check it out. I think PJ knows that almost everyone on these boards is going to be in the cinema for film 3 regardless of whether there's a trailer or not.
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QuackingTroll
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Oct 27 2014, 12:29pm
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I think your demands have gotten higher
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After all RotK only had one trailer, released fairly early, and fans were pretty content with that.
We already have a trailer, you've probably decided whether you're going to see the movie or not. So it's done its job. The only reason another trailer is needed is to convince those who aren't currently aware or interested. I don't think any of us fall into that category.
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tsmith675
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Oct 27 2014, 1:02pm
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Imagine if the trailers that were attached to BoFA were...
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Jurassic World, Batman v Superman and Star Wars Episode VII..... Talk about multiple nerdgasms.
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Arannir
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Oct 27 2014, 1:03pm
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"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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lidlessEye
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Oct 27 2014, 2:23pm
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people seem to have forgotten, what the meaning for marketing is...
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marketing for media-products adresses an audience with a product, and causes an requirement, that the future-consumer needs this product
now I might be wrong, but i consider myself as a potential future-user of the media-product hobbit-movie.
I will consume this product, but i will do it only once - whereas I did consume this product in the last years more than once. The reason is, I'm not psyched any more whereas I always knew in the past years, that I will see it more then once (and that was before the product was consumed).
so in my special case, the marketing for this movie failed - because warner will only get a quarter of the money I was willing to pay for the product.
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Arannir
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Oct 27 2014, 2:29pm
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For WB it is relevant that the average audience member goes and watches Bot5A - multiple viewings are generally happening because the actual movie was liked by the general audience, not because the marketing was so great.
That is why it was important to have the teaser play in front of some of the summer blockbusters (it was shown in front of many GotG screenings) and now in the fall and winter inf ront of Interstellar and Mockingjay.
As you say, you already knowing that you will not watch it as often because the marketing did not feed your anticipation is a special case.
And special cases must never be the guideline for marketing.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Spriggan
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Oct 27 2014, 2:32pm
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But you will base you decision on whether to see it again not on the film itself, when you see it, but on the memory of how you felt about the timing of the second trailer some months earlier?
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