|
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
labadal
Ossiriand
Jun 7 2008, 8:57pm
Post #1 of 38
(1023 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Thranduil Rumour
|
Can't Post
|
|
I have heard rumours that they might cast orlando Bloom as Thranduil or just throw Legolas into the Hobbit.
I am no Orlando Bloom fan so i don't really want him ion the movie anyway (sorry to all the fans) but casting him as Thranduil would be ridiculous!
Take what you can, give nothing back!
|
|
|
Owain
Dor-Lomin
Jun 7 2008, 9:02pm
Post #2 of 38
(673 views)
Shortcut
|
At this point all of the casting seems to be up in the air.
Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro have held off from naming anyone as of yet.
I certainly agree that Orlando Bloom shouldn't be in The Hobbit, as Legolas or Thranduil. While I enjoyed him as Legolas, I don't think he should be in the first Hobbit film at all.
It WOULD be ridiculous.
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
(This post was edited by Owain on Jun 7 2008, 9:02pm)
|
|
|
merklynn
Menegroth
Jun 7 2008, 9:28pm
Post #3 of 38
(679 views)
Shortcut
|
I hear you, but a brief background/cameo would be perfectly within reason because Legolas is Thranduil's son. So his being present during Thorin and Company's captivity in Mirkwood would not be inappropriate. Should Legolas play an important part? No. Should he have any speaking lines? Preferably not, but one line would do no harm. Should Orlando Bloom play Thranduil? Of course not! I hope they cast relative unknowns for EVERY part in this film. My only suggestions are Gerard Butler as Bard, Pablo Adan as the voice of Smaug, and James Cosmo as either Thorin or Balin.
I'm not an Orlando fan at all, but of all his roles, I think Legolas was the most bearable. Still, he is my biggest qualm/nitpick about the films, due to his ridiculous action stunts.
|
|
|
Nimloth
Menegroth
Jun 8 2008, 4:49am
Post #4 of 38
(620 views)
Shortcut
|
I agree with Merklynn that it is quite feasible to have Legolas appear in 'The Hobbit' in his father's halls though certainly not as a main character. As for the Orlando as Thranduil rumour I simply don't believe it. I too would like to see a cast of fairly unknown actors in 'The Hobbit'.
|
|
|
tedster88
Lindon
Jun 8 2008, 10:53am
Post #5 of 38
(608 views)
Shortcut
|
I thought Orlando put in a strong performance as Legolas. He was perfect for the role, ok he's had his critics in the past but i'm still a fan. As for Thanduril can see why it has been suggusted but think they should cast someone else. I think Legolas should be given a part in The Hobbit as Bilbo and the dwarfes do past through Mirkwood and also some Elves also go to Dale Town afterwards from Mirkwood. Personally would love to Legolas back in The Hobbit and Film 2 and can't see anyway but Bloom playing him.
|
|
|
Jazmine
Dor-Lomin
Jun 8 2008, 11:30am
Post #6 of 38
(601 views)
Shortcut
|
they would cast Orlando as Thranduil, as everyone who has seen LoTR will associate him with Legolas. But, I don't think giving him a brief appearance as Legolas would be out of the question. He is, after all, Thranduil's son, so they may throw him in there. I can't see them giving him a major part, there's not really any need for it. Film Two however, is an entirely different matter.
*Jazminatar the Brown*
|
|
|
Jazmine
Dor-Lomin
Jun 8 2008, 11:31am
Post #7 of 38
(596 views)
Shortcut
|
I love your nick Labadal!
*Jazminatar the Brown*
|
|
|
Peredhil lover
Doriath
Jun 8 2008, 11:55am
Post #8 of 38
(593 views)
Shortcut
|
I can't imagine they would cast Orlando to play Thranduil, that would be much too confusing. But to see him somewhere in the stronghold, i.e. Bilbo trying to avoid a passing Legolas, or Legolas somewhere among the guards, or later on during the Battle of the Five Armies, that would only be logical. He's Thranduil's son, after all. He doesn't need a main part, probably not even a speaking role, but I'd love to see him there. I simply can't believe that the warrior who did go on the Quest would stay back, sitting at home, while others went to battle. I always think he has to be one of the officers of Thranduil's army.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
|
|
|
grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Jun 8 2008, 12:39pm
Post #9 of 38
(598 views)
Shortcut
|
but I'm sure there's speculation. I sincerely hope not. The only time I want to see Orlando Bloom as an elf is when he's wearing Legolas' boots :D
 
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
TORn's Observations Lists
|
|
|
leo
Nargothrond
Jun 8 2008, 6:06pm
Post #10 of 38
(579 views)
Shortcut
|
|
|
|
Daughter of Nienna
Hithlum
Jun 8 2008, 6:33pm
Post #11 of 38
(578 views)
Shortcut
|
It is certainly very much fun to discuss the rumors. I hope that the level of panic-button-pushing for every rumor can slow down a bit. Nobody is going to be cast until next year some time . . . after the script is completed. GDT did mention that he is hoping to have a Christmas surprise for us regarding casting selection(s).
They plan to take the entire rest of this year to write it. Scripts can take a long time, years even. They want to get this one right. Nothing is moving ahead unt it all gets down on paper. Any rumor going around is just rumor until they say it themselves. Their final word was that nothing gets even thought about until the script is written.
Live Chat with PJ & GDT: http://www.wetanz.com/...p?itemid=695&catid=2
Those of us who hang around at TORn, even if only the Front Page (like a lot of my local Tolkien friends), are in a good position to find out first who the casting is. So, please stick around and enjoy the fun.
LINKs to keep up by:
http://newboards.theonering.net/...latest_reply;so=ASC;
BTW: I love Bloom in Kingdom of Heaven, the extended version. Yet, I agree, there is no part for Legolas in film one, accept, perhaps as a cameo. Film 2 is a different matter and who knows, there may not even be film 2, if they can't fit together a cohesive story. But .I think those clever people can do that alright, as I hope they will. Film 2 is so open that anything might come up. It is far, far to early to speculate, let alone panic.
Having said that... it is still a lot of fun to guess and play with it as a fan as long as it is recognised that it can only be guess-work and it's all in good fun & play.
It is a long Hollywood Traditon for casting rumors to fly around a much anticipated film. Gone with the Wind (GWTW) still gets the Top Award in the casting-rumor department.... that was released in 1939 (still considered the best year in film history for movies). For about 2 years prior to filming, the insanity of all the casting rumors reached such a fervor that the film industry has never seen the like of since. It is all part of the process. Take a deep breath and enjoy the ride.
Much appologies if I sound too "soap-boxy" . . . not my intentiion.
much aloha
DoN
**Tribute: Lt. J.G. Robert Sterling, WWII Pilot MIA, by Gramma & DoN**
Art Gallery Revised, Aloha & Mahalo, Websites Directory
Nienna: those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope . . . All those who wait in Mandos cry to her, for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom." Valaquenta
|
|
|
Huan71
Menegroth
Jun 9 2008, 9:37am
Post #12 of 38
(543 views)
Shortcut
|
I agree with most of the above comments.
I think this casting rumour is VERY far fetched ! I just cant see it...
Though it would be perfectly normal to see him "around and about the place" . So, i think a couple of well placed cameo's, even a line or two, would be fine.
As for the infamous film 2.... well, we don't even know what that's going to be about yet. So any speculation as to O.B. making an appearance there would be pretty far out. At this early stage, anyway!
"Only the guilty dream"... oh dear, i'm DOOMED!!
|
|
|
deej
Dor-Lomin
Jun 9 2008, 5:07pm
Post #13 of 38
(534 views)
Shortcut
|
I must confess to a bit of 'fangirlishness' when it comes to Mr. Bloom, but I agree that I would not want him to play Thranduil. I'd much rather see him as Legolas in a brief cameo - perhaps at the Battle of the Five Armies, or maybe somewhere in Mirkwood.
"...and back again."
|
|
|
merklynn
Menegroth
Jun 9 2008, 8:35pm
Post #14 of 38
(550 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Legolas has every right to be in The Hobbit, just not as an important character
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
I'm not a fan of Bloom/Legolas, but it is perfectly logical that he is at the Battle of Five Armies commanding Elves under his father Thranduil. So all you fangirls out there don't lose hope of Legolas being in The Hobbit for a few cameos and background dialogue... and smoldering in the background acting. Hey, technically Figwit could be back during scenes in Rivendell. Its a fangirls delight.
I just want my Arwen in there somewhere, and I'm being reasonable asking for her in Film Two, not in The Hobbit unless it works for her to be there in the background for some reason.
|
|
|
durfalas
Nevrast
Jun 10 2008, 10:11pm
Post #15 of 38
(502 views)
Shortcut
|
Sorry to say but I`m pretty sure there should not be any actors from LOTR casted for TH. That is a completely different story and apart from obvious exceptions like Gandalf or Gollum that do appear in TH book there should be no re-casting. In fact, if they decide to do it anyway I should be very disappointed as that would be for commercial reasons only
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo
|
|
|
merklynn
Menegroth
Jun 11 2008, 2:49am
Post #16 of 38
(495 views)
Shortcut
|
How is Legolas being present at the battle of five armies commercial? It's just plain fact, like it or not, that Legolas is the son of King Thranduil. Do any of ther other wood elves have names? Nope. And would Legolas be involved in a big battle with his father? Most likely yes. Just to make it clear, I do not have any bias towards Orlando OR the character of Legolas, but storywise, his presence is not blasphemy. Technically Thranduil is never even referred to by that name in the book either. So since aspects outside of TH weigh in, such as facts from LOTR and other sources, Legolas being a prince of the unnamed wood elves is just another fact that we have to accept. It does not mean that GDT or PJ will acknowledge it by giving him a cameo, or minor role in the film, but they would be justified in doing so if they decided to do so.
In any case 1 to 2 minutes of screen time for the actor is not going to sell many more tickets. If a major part was written into the film for him and he was splattered across the trailer then yes, it would be commercial. I can't see that happening. I don't think GDT is tactless. I'm not arguing for Legolas to be in the film, but I do think its within reason that the character could be present in both the imprisonment of Thorin scene and the Battle.
Now, Arwen I do have a personal bias towards, but I do think she needs to be a part of Aragorn's story, if Film Two ends up following Aragorn as I personally believe it should. But at the same time I don't want ANYONE even Arwen shoehorned in to the detriment of other characters and the larger story.
(This post was edited by merklynn on Jun 11 2008, 2:50am)
|
|
|
durfalas
Nevrast
Jun 11 2008, 6:38am
Post #17 of 38
(480 views)
Shortcut
|
... `most probably` would Legolas take part in the battle and his father would be `likely` to ask him for help but it is NOT a part of the original TH story that I hope GDT and PJ will use as a basis. Therefore I`m still convinced that if Legolas or any other LOTR characters are to appear, it should only happen in the F2, not TH. Bear in mind to what extend was PJ strict about changes in LOTR in terms of characters! Of course, they didn`t mention Tom Bombadil or Radagast but there was no artificial adding to the characters list whatsoever. And let me be a purist: no matter what our personal favourites characters are, we should focus on the original storyline.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo
|
|
|
Peredhil lover
Doriath
Jun 11 2008, 9:00am
Post #18 of 38
(489 views)
Shortcut
|
I don't expect Legolas to have a big role, but there *have* to be a few elves in 'The Hobbit', and I don't see why not one of them should be Legolas. He may not have been mentioned in the book, but the Professor didn't even name the elvenking, so why should he mention his son? To see him somewhere among the elves would satisfy the Legolas-fans without putting off the Legolas-haters, and people who don't know LotR yet would simply take him as any other elf. So I don't see a problem there. As far as I remember, the only elves really mentioned in the book are Thranduil, Galion, and a few guards - a bit too few to use only them in the movie, don't you think? There's a battle to be fought, after all.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
|
|
|
durfalas
Nevrast
Jun 11 2008, 3:31pm
Post #19 of 38
(470 views)
Shortcut
|
...not a role then but fair enough! Let them put Legolas in the Mirkwood if that`s what you wish
I just wonder if Bloom would bother to fly all the way to New Zealand just for a cameo. How about Gimli then as an anonymous warrior of Balin? (just joking)
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo
|
|
|
Peredhil lover
Doriath
Jun 11 2008, 4:02pm
Post #20 of 38
(466 views)
Shortcut
|
Never expected that they give Legolas a big role, as it wouldn't truly fit in with the book. But this sort of cameo - why not? I would certainly appreciate it
Well, in case Legolas is put into F2, the flight shouldn't be a big issue. They will shot both films back to back, so they can film all scenes more or less in one row, I suppose.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
|
|
|
deej
Dor-Lomin
Jun 11 2008, 4:57pm
Post #21 of 38
(460 views)
Shortcut
|
|
I think if PJ asked, and he were available
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
Then flying down there wouldn't be an issue. Many of the cast members (including Orlando) have said they would love to work with Peter again. I think it would just be a question of scheduling more than anything.
"...and back again."
|
|
|
rabbitmm
Registered User
Jun 11 2008, 6:49pm
Post #22 of 38
(454 views)
Shortcut
|
Personally, I would love for Orlando to show up briefly in the Hobbit, as Legolas. I think it would clarify for people not versed in the stories that Elves live very long lives, so he could look the same as he did in LOTR films, plus show the audience a little of where Legolas actually came from. It would be very nice to have a scene again of Orlando with his beautiful blonde hair, as when he walked into the room where Frodo was recuperating in ROTK. When I first saw that at the theatre, I actually let out a sigh, as he looked so gorgeous, and that it not something I think I have ever done at least in public! Doesn't help that he's young enough to be my son either.
|
|
|
Peredhil lover
Doriath
Jun 11 2008, 6:55pm
Post #23 of 38
(444 views)
Shortcut
|
And I completely agree about a Legolas cameo
The hint about elven ages is something I hadn't thought of before, btw. In LotR, we had this with Elrond, who was in the prologue as well, but for people who don't know the trilogy, this could help to make clear that elves are immortal (save if they get killed), here you're right.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
|
|
|
durfalas
Nevrast
Jun 11 2008, 7:08pm
Post #24 of 38
(452 views)
Shortcut
|
...asking about Gimli? Should we see him as well? Would it make sense in terms of time? I mean would he be able to fight in the Battle of the Five Armies?We know he was Balin`s cousin, don`t we? So how old would he be at that time?
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo
|
|
|
Peredhil lover
Doriath
Jun 11 2008, 7:12pm
Post #25 of 38
(452 views)
Shortcut
|
was born in 2879, and the Battle of Five Armies was in 2941. So, yes, chronologically he could be there, and as his father was with Bilbo ... but on the other hand, I doubt JRD will play a dwarf ever again, considering his allergic reaction to the mask.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
|
|
|
|
|
1
