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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Oct 19 2016, 8:26am
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could have been a bit more majestic and impressive, I'd say on that one, although I like Dain himself a lot.
Especially when there are gigantic beasts all over the place in all six M-e films (given the far back evolutive times, I suppose), I really can't understand why he - and he alone - was denied one as his properly kingly mount, and had to appear in front of all on the battlefield, riding this ridiculously small pig that seems about to collapse at any moment under the sheer weight of his master!!!
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Silmaril
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Oct 19 2016, 11:48am
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Maybe I would like it better if it would LOOK better. For me it's cheap/cheesy and it was unnecessary to alter the storyline.
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OldestDaughter
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Oct 19 2016, 12:08pm
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I enjoyed his character after I first saw him when I saw AUJ in theaters. I was afraid that he was going to be a scary character, like some of the orcs from LOTR's. But I was glad that he was jovial and more of laid back person! That is one of my reasons why he is one of my favorite villains!
"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."
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dormouse
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Oct 19 2016, 12:38pm
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The statue looks fine to me....
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Very much in keeping with the dwarven style they created for Erebor and clearly a portrait of Thror, just like the stone one against which Thorin is framed so memorably.
But each to his own.... 
For still there are so many things
that I have never seen:
in every wood and every spring
there is a different green. . .
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Silmaril
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Oct 19 2016, 1:07pm
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but the gold doesn't. Looks like an oscar or something  and that melting...blubb blubb...hmmm...WTF
I would be glad if I could enjoy these movies like you. But I still have LOTR...
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Ingwion
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Oct 19 2016, 4:21pm
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Why you're unable to enjoy TH because of the gold melting unrealistically(?) and an unrealistic arrow flight. Do these things really matter? They don't affect the story
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Ingwion
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Oct 19 2016, 4:23pm
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It'd be awkward for him to ride a large mount. Maybe they didn't have boars in the Iron Hills anyway
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Oct 19 2016, 4:33pm
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I do understand Silmaril's objection to Bard's jury-rigged, Rube Goldberg contraption that probably should have never worked when Jackson could have just allowed him to use the foreshadowed windlance.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Oct 20 2016, 5:30am
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I didn't mean *that* gigantic...
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... just bigger at least than the poor little pig he rides on!!!
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Silmaril
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Oct 20 2016, 6:58am
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It's the sum of all these big and small things. The negative feelings outweigh the poitive ones.
But I had a great time following the production. That was exciting!
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Ingwion
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Oct 20 2016, 4:20pm
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I suppose it was a bit of a let-down after Thranduil's elk
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Ingwion
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Oct 20 2016, 4:22pm
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If Bard used a windlance it would have been less impressive somehow... It seems that Girion found it pretty easy to use..
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Oct 20 2016, 5:57pm
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If Bard used a windlance it would have been less impressive somehow... It seems that Girion found it pretty easy to use..
And yet Tolkien had Bard take down Smaug with just a normal-sized Black Arrow and a longbow made of yew.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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Ingwion
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Oct 20 2016, 5:59pm
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Very impressive, isn't it!
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Oct 20 2016, 6:05pm
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The only real damage I would buy Bard doing with a regular-sized arrow and bow is shooting Smaug in the eye.
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Oct 20 2016, 6:22pm
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It was impressive in the book!
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Of course Smaug was a bit smaller there than in the films. But wouldn't taking the even larger beast down with an ordinary bow be a more impressive accomplishment, not less?
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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Ingwion
Menegroth
Oct 20 2016, 6:23pm
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It would be, as opposed to a windlance
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Oct 20 2016, 8:16pm
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And I thought you were using sarcasm. Apologies! 
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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Ingwion
Menegroth
Oct 20 2016, 8:21pm
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Looking back, 'tis understandable
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Oct 21 2016, 5:23am
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Right, the majestic elk didn't help!...
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But even in itself, just as compared to Dain's own body, the pig doesn't seem even big enough to carry him!...  Next time you look, you'll see!
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Oct 21 2016, 6:54am
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This is one instance where Peter Jackson's sense of humor overcomes his directorial sense. Members of the production team have related the story of how they designed a big, fierce-looking boar for Dain only to have Jackson continue to have them change it: making it smaller and cuter each time because he thought it was funnier that way.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Oct 21 2016, 8:08am
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Oh, now I understand!... I must say
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I didn't expect it to be on purpose!!!  Well, it is indeed funnier that way, for sure!
Bravo then to Dain and the actor playing him for having managed to look impressive enough anyway, and have the cheek of even mocking 'the princess'!!! 
Thank you for this piece of info, when I have had no access yet myself to any of the appendices of thes three Hobbit films...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Ingwion
Menegroth
Oct 22 2016, 10:43am
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If PJ wanted a bit more humour, I'm glad he put Dain on a pig as opposed to more scenes of Alfrid or something
It was a foggy day in London, and the fog was heavy and dark. Animate London, with smarting eyes and irritated lungs, was blinking, wheezing, and choking; inanimate London was a sooty spectre, divided in purpose between being visible and invisible, and so being wholly neither. - Our Mutual Friend, Charles Dickens.
It is said by the Eldar that in water there lives yet the echo of the Music of the Ainur more than in any substance that is in this Earth; and many of the Children of Ilúvatar hearken still unsated to the voices of the Sea, and yet know not for what they listen. - The Silmarillion, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Oct 25 2016, 9:30pm
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Jackson went way over the top with some of his takes on the characters. he didn't know when to say when
- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
My Book---> www.amazon.com/Popcornmaker
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LittleHobbit
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Oct 26 2016, 7:58am
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he didn't know when to say when
What?
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