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Is Ian Holm ill?
 

diedye
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Aug 22 2008, 12:37pm

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I just read this tidbit over at E! Online...


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The filmmakers have also talked to Ian Holm, who played the older Bilbo in LOTR, but the 76-year-old actor's participation depends largely on his health. Should he not be able to play the titular character, del Toro has reportedly been mulling the possibility of having him narrate the tale.

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Is this because of his age, or has he been in poor health? If he is, then, as usual, I'm the last to know. But I'm with GDT on this one... if he can't be on-screen, there's no one else I'd rather have do the narrative work.

Here's wishing him good health and long years.





Earl
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Aug 22 2008, 12:44pm

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... it's just their way of saying that he could be too old for the rigourous role being Bilbo entails. But I do hope he is in good health anyway. I just absolutely adored him in LOTR (he reminded me so much of my late grandmother... those mannerisms, that attitude, the twinkle in his eyes). I hope he's doing fine, he's a good soul Smile

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Elven
Valinor


Aug 22 2008, 1:38pm

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I think this is the same interview .. [In reply to] Can't Post

where they had added context to some reports previous - which related to stuff that came from the 'An Unexpected Part' held by WETA ...

I think it comes from this bit here:

On the actors reprising their roles ....

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1 - Which of the actors from LOTR will be back to reprise their roles in The Hobbit and its companion film?
Guillermo del Toro
Obviously, at this stage, the second film is still being figured out- so the actors that have been approached may or not have appeared in the HOBBIT as a literary work but still may appear in the second film as it “blends” into the Trilogy and expands. Therefore what can be said is: Unequivocally, every single actor that originated a role in the Trilogy will be asked to participate and reprise it. If Health, availability or willigness become obstacles – and only in that case recasting would be considered.
Peter Jackson
Like Guillermo says, apart from extreme circumstances, we would never recast a character who appeared in the LOTR trilogy. You can read The Hobbit and pretty much see which characters play a part. The unknown facter is Film Two, which we are still developing. If we wished to write one of the LOTR characters into the narrative of Film Two, we would only do that with that actors blessing, and willingess to take part. Otherwise we'd take the writing in another direction.




So no, I dont get the impression that Ian Holm is suddenly ill - it maybe would have made news - but there is nothing of it - he seems to be a discreet man with his personal life, with most online reports and websites focus on praising his film and stage accomplishments.
He deserves better respect - if that is the intention of the report to insinuate he is ill when he is not.

Cheers
Elven x



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Patty
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Aug 22 2008, 3:53pm

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but didn't he have prostate cancer a few years ago (since LotR)?

edited to add: I checked here http://www.nndb.com/people/438/000023369/ and he did have it, but the dates of his illness aren't listed.

Hanging out with the Lonely Isle elves.

(This post was edited by Patty on Aug 22 2008, 3:56pm)


FarFromHome
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Aug 22 2008, 4:29pm

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...he reminded me so much of my late grandmother...



It reminds me that Ian McKellen says in the commentaries that Ian Holm as Bilbo reminded him of Judi Dench's mother! (He added that he meant it literally - her mother used to come and pick her up from the theatre, apparently, when Sir Ian and Dame Judi were young actors together at the Old Vic.)


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and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
glimmered and was lost.


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Aug 23 2008, 5:17pm

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I can't think of anything physically demanding apart Bilbo's attack on the spiders. He does spend quite some time invisible after the Gollum incident.

Of course, if he absolutely can't do it, another actor will have to join in.


sphdle1
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Aug 25 2008, 1:19pm

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From how I read it, Holm is not ill, but they will assess his physical condition for the part prior to shooting (as I'm sure Holm himself will), and go from there.

How I read this is that Holm, if he stays in good shape over the next several years, could very well reprise his role as Bilbo. I think with some movie magic with stunt doubles, CGI (newer and improved), and newer state of the art make-up, they could make Holm look naturally younger. They could hire a team of make-up and CGI enhancement artists to take this frame by frame and make it look completely real. This would be awesome...there is hope!

If Holm can't do it, I think Martin Freeman is the man & will do awesome under DT direction. But there is some hope for Holm and hopefully he's up for taking one last jouney into Middle Earth, as it would be nice knowing it's the same Bilbo playing the part in the Hobbit. Even if they have to use CGI and special make-up, if it looks completely real, and they put enough time, money, effort and latest state of the art technology into it, then I think it would be spectacular.

 
 
 

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