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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Mar 19 2007, 4:06pm
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The Star of Earendil
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Just wanted to remind everybody that the Star of Earendil is particularly bright in the western skies these evenings. I've been noticing it in the twilight above the mountains.
OK, it's really Venus, but that, I'm sure, is what the Star of Earendil "really" was. I've also been seeing Menelvagor with his shining belt. He's about to bid us goodbye for the year.
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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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Magpie
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Mar 19 2007, 4:27pm
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...and wondered what planet it was, but forgot to look it up when I got home.
I love Orion.
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Mar 19 2007, 7:02pm
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I have always had a fondness for stargazing but once I read the works of Tolkien it only magnified. He creates this mythos for the stars that just hits your soul, or at least my soul, in just the right place. Everytime there's a clear sky I look up at "Earendil" and feel that story come to life. Very powerful.
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Advising Elf
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Mar 19 2007, 7:21pm
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Doesn't "Elrond" mean "star-dome"?//
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Menelwyn
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Mar 19 2007, 9:56pm
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It has been impressive lately, hasn't it? I always think of that salutation when I see Venus these days. And Orion has pretty much solidly become Menelvagor for me, too. Interesting for someone with an astronomy degree.
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dernwyn
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Mar 19 2007, 10:31pm
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And it does not mean that Elrond had a shiny bald pate...
From the Sil appendices:
"êl, elen 'star'. According to Elvish legend, ele was a primitive exclamation 'behold!' made by the Elves when they first saw the stars. From this origin derived the ancient words êl and elen, meaning 'star', and the adjectives elda and elena, meaning 'of the stars'."
"rond meant a vaulted or arched roof, or a large hall or chamber so roofed; so Nargothrond (see ost), Hadhodrond, Aglarond. It could be applied to the heavens, hence the name Elrond 'star-dome'."
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greendragon
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Mar 19 2007, 10:56pm
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Orion is one of my very favourite constellations. I can remember one of my teachers in Scotland, when I was about five, pointing out to us Orion and his belt and sword, and I've loved spotting him in the sky ever since. As Winter is by far my favourite time of year, too, I'm always rather sad when he leaves our night sky.
I'm learning more about star gazing at the moment - a friend has been teaching me and there are more constellations I can recognise now. I've never actually associated them with LotR before but I know I will now! 
'There are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of my fridge...'
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dernwyn
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Mar 19 2007, 11:31pm
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Yes, there's something almost magical about seeing it twinkling through the barren tree-branches on a clear winter's night!
Beauty untouched by the pollution and madness of this world...*sigh*...
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Magpie
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Mar 19 2007, 11:32pm
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I used to read do literature and language enrichment in the schools and one of my units was about stars. I focused on the Big Dipper (for 1st graders) and had quite a few books elaborating on cultural folklore about the Big Dipper. I had a couple of Native American stories, a Finno-Ugric one, and "Follow the Drinking Gourd, about the Underground Railroad.
Orion is so large and I can imagine this proud warrior standing in the sky. And I like how it marks the seasons. In some ways it's easier to star watch when it's dark at 6:00 in the evening!
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Magpie
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Mar 19 2007, 11:43pm
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I recently did a set of LOTR quote cards for a friend going through a health crises. I paired quotes from the book that made me laugh or sigh or just feel inspired with images onto little cards. I had also been sharing haiku with her as well and was struck by how certain traditional Japanese haiku made me think of LOTR passages. I decided that some cards would provide pairs of haiku/quotes. Here's one:
Here is the dark tree
Denuded now of leafage . . .
But a million stars
Shiki
Or there maybe ‘tis cloudless night
and swaying beeches bear
the Elven-stars as jewels white
amid their branching hair.
Sam
LOTR, Book 6, Ch. 1
The Tower of Cirith Ungol
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greendragon
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Mar 19 2007, 11:49pm
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As we call it in the UK! Yes, that's another one that I was taught as a very small child and which I've enjoyed spotting ever since. My Dad just bought me a 'guide to the nightsky' for my birthday; it's a small tube which you align with date and time, and then look into it and it shows you a map of what's present in your sky at that time. So now I can learn much more!
'There are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of my fridge...'
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greendragon
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Mar 19 2007, 11:52pm
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That haiku and quotation pair is perfect! They go SO well together! And describe the beauty of a winter night perfectly. I so love winter and dark - a sparkling winter's night appeals to me MUCH more than a bright summer's day.
'There are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of my fridge...'
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dernwyn
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Mar 20 2007, 12:18am
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Especially Sam's song - that's just how it seems!
Thank you!
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Mar 20 2007, 12:25am
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Has anybody here claimed a particular star
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as their own star? I'm not talking about Star Registry stuff, just unofficial "that one's mine". My sister and I did that when we were teenagers. When I spent a summer in Europe, I would look up at the sky and see her star and it made me feel less homesick. My star isn't one of the brighter ones, just one that I thought was placed in an interesting way in its constellation. It's a summer star. I love Orion, as many people have said, but the summer constellations remind me of wonderful family camping trips when I was a kid and my mom taught me the constellations.
Uncle Baggins has since claimed a star near to mine as his star. Anybody else have their own star?
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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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Chance Meeting at Rivendell: a Tolkien Fanfic
and some other stuff I wrote...
leleni at hotmail dot com
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L. Ron Halfelven
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Mar 20 2007, 12:40am
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There's a nice online equivalent....
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here. I remember going there occasionally and typing in locations like 38S 175E-- didn't want to be a complete stranger!
Fight for us! And regain your honor, learn valuable technical skills, and qualify for up to four years' college tuition! What say you?
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silneldor
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Mar 20 2007, 12:45am
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it is wonderful but it has been cloudy for a few days.
During the summer months up at the pond where everything is wide open to the SE we have seen it right beside the crescent moon and having it reflect in the still water is so beautiful. I must get a tripod to take night pictures because i cannot hold it steady long enough.
Thank you Aunt Dora. I'll keep an eye out tomorrow night .
"Tolkien, like Lewis, believed that, through story, the real world would become a more magical place, full of meaning. We see its patterns and colors in a fresh way. The recovery of a true view of the world applies both to individual things, like hills and stones, and to the cosmic - the depths of space and time itself. For in sub-creation, in Tolkien's view, there is a "survey" of space and time. Reality is captured on a miniature scale. Through stories like The Lord of the Rings, a renewed view of things is given, illuminating the homely, the spiritial, the physical, and the moral dimensions of the world."
Tolkien and C.S. Lewis- The Gift of Friendship -Duriez
A little bit of Rivendell to warm the home
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Mar 20 2007, 12:52am
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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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silneldor
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Mar 20 2007, 1:15am
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i really like because it has all the serenity of a Maxfield Parrish. And all the others are very fine but the one that hits me deeply is the forest, shaft of light scene by John Lampo. Simply exquisite.
"Tolkien, like Lewis, believed that, through story, the real world would become a more magical place, full of meaning. We see its patterns and colors in a fresh way. The recovery of a true view of the world applies both to individual things, like hills and stones, and to the cosmic - the depths of space and time itself. For in sub-creation, in Tolkien's view, there is a "survey" of space and time. Reality is captured on a miniature scale. Through stories like The Lord of the Rings, a renewed view of things is given, illuminating the homely, the spiritial, the physical, and the moral dimensions of the world."
Tolkien and C.S. Lewis- The Gift of Friendship -Duriez
A little bit of Rivendell to warm the home
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RosieLass
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Mar 20 2007, 1:38am
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...who thinks it has been twinkling? Planets aren't supposed to do that, and it's confusing.
Children’s Interpretations of the Bible
Lot’s wife was a pillar of salt during the day, but a ball of fire during the night.
The greatest miracle in the Bible is when Joshua told his son to stand still and he obeyed him.
Christians have only one spouse. This is called monotony.
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Magpie
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Mar 20 2007, 2:27am
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I like that one alot too... the photo and the poem n/t
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Magpie
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Mar 20 2007, 2:32am
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twinkling is caused by the atmosphere messing with the light waves. The only difference between the light from a distant star and a nearby planet's reflected light is the planet's light would appear stronger (by proximity) and I guess it would take more atmospheric turbulence to mess with the light. (Did anyone else hear Chaucer's voice in A Knight's Tale when they read 'turbulence'? ... and that post just made me sound a whole lot smarter than I am or revealed me for a loquacious magpie. Don't tell me which, okay?)
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Advising Elf
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Mar 20 2007, 2:38am
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One of the few things I remember from my one read of The Sil.
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The other is that Turin is a bummer.
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