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grammaboodawg
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Mar 1 2007, 2:55am
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MGM is the New - New Line!!!
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The homepage has an article on MGM/UA apparently still moving forward with plans... *twitch* ... to film THE HOBBIT!!! There's not a whole lot more to the article than a mention of The Hobbit with other titles to be films, but IT'S RIGHT THERE! *geeky twitter*
Now how the heck am I supposed to sleep!!???
*spins in chair*
Time will tell!
 
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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SandWitch King
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Mar 1 2007, 4:26am
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You know I love your enthusiasm, right?
This is MGM probably planning for a post New Line (2009) Hobbit-bridge-to-LOTR movie or pair of movies. This has always been the suspected situation and not the first time MGM has talked franchises that include "The Hobbit."
To help you sleep, I will suggest that nothing has changed since yesterday or last week. MGM still feels like it is in the game. This could be worse not better, although I feel better about it. It might end up being called, "Tom Cruise's The Hobbit: Staring Tom Cruise".
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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Elven
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Mar 1 2007, 7:59am
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Well I hope the MGM/UA fete stand can raise that sort of finance ... they'll need it for when Peter Jackson and Weta take the reins for 'The Hobbit' in 2009+ ... How else are they going to afford the new CGI - I mean ... I want to ride the barrel down the river ... I want to sit on the neck of Smaug as he leaves the Mountian for the last time - I want to duck arrows and I want to feel the breath of Beorn on my back (family board  ) ... I want to be inside that film ... and so MGM/UA might need to go all out and have Chocolate Wheel as well!! 
"all we are saying, Is Give Pete a Chance" ...
 Elven x
"Never wash your name in hot water Elvenesque - it shrinks!" said the Gaffer.
Tolkien was a Capricorn!
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Mar 1 2007, 10:02am
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the second film in this blurb... but blurbs are sometimes like that. Pepto helps. I'll especially need a double-dose if the film(s) on Cruise-control.
I think MGM has it flatly planted in them The Hobbit will definitely be on their list of titles... and the other film, too. Oh cripes!!! I wonder what the title of that little pearl will be!!!??? Any ideas?
A Tale of Years?
Been There And Back Again?
Unfinished Tales?
Just To Shut gramma Up?
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Mar 1 2007, 10:09am
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If Peter believes in the project
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... and I get a sneaking suspicion he's interested in this one ;), I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he follows true-to-form and covers the cost of the things he believes will advance the film and the story. He financed the creation of the Massive engine for LotR that gave us those huge armies and battles. I have a VERY strong feeling he may even be one of the backers/investors they're talking about... but probably not under his own name. Maybe our burping Bree inhabitant Albert Dreary will be interested in being an investor ;)
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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Hobbitmomma
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Mar 1 2007, 3:33pm
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That's the one I'm banking on Gramma!!
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entmaiden
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Mar 1 2007, 4:15pm
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Part of this might be posturing
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MGM might be including the Hobbit just to remind everyone that they're part of the picture. New Line will have to go through MGM to distribute any movie they might make, so the fund-raising might be related to the distribution of a potential New Line movie.
Tom Cruise's involvement scares me a little bit. Many of his movies are all about him, and I don't want him anywhere near The Hobbit.
Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.
`Are these magic cloaks?' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.
`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.
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Darkstone
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Mar 1 2007, 4:40pm
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...they just put together a deal for the Royal Bank of Scotland to put up $350 million worth of financing for 20 movies over the next couple of years. No mention of The Hobbit, though.
See: http://www.newline.com/.../0131_scotland.shtml
Pippin: "When you guys fall, does it make a sound?"
Bregalad: "Are you kidding? Scott fell last week and he hasn't shut up about it since."
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Owlyross
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Mar 1 2007, 4:51pm
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Is only involved in United Artists, an umbrella company of MGM. And their main focus, fund-wise, is the James Bond franchise, who UA used to produce on their own. I would suspect that The Hobbit would be an MGM only production. Besides, it's down to the director who appears in the film, not the company.
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The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 1 2007, 5:27pm
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Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Mar 1 2007, 5:35pm
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*eyebrows shoot up* Reeeeeeally?
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Fascinating!
Gads, I love to be a fly on NL's walls! That's very interesting.
Will Farrell's "Semi-Pro" on-location shots are being done about an hour's drive from my house. They've had a call out to Michiganders with circa-70's cars, furniture, clothings, etc. that want to be involved with the film to contact the film company. They're also prepping some local restaurants and other businesses/streets for filming. Mr. Shaye need not attend. The thought of him within striking distance right now makes me twitch.
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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SandWitch King
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Mar 1 2007, 5:51pm
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#1. Distribution companies rarely finance films, they distribute only. It is much less of a financial risk. So, it doesn't make sense for MGM to finance a movie and then not be making the movie. In effect, they would be financing it, turning all quality and control over to New Line, and then distributing whatever the finished result is. They would pay for something without having input on it.
#2. New Line is seemingly calling MGM's bluff. After the latest "we are looking at directors" announcement from New Line, MGM said, publicly"It isn't over yet" which doesn't indicate a deal.
#3. The need to get good will. New Line knows very well that they are facing the challenge of getting back goodwill from fans. If it could get MGM to say, "We have reached a cohesive vision with New Line and are confident about the talent and the Hobbit" it would greatly help the public relations battle. If there was a deal, it would be trumpeted loud and far.
These are my theories of course butsomewhat informed.
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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entmaiden
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Mar 1 2007, 8:35pm
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His most recent movie "Stranger than Fiction" premiered here in Chicago and I attended the opening night ceremonies. Dustin Hoffman was there too. Will was great - not at all like the characters he often plays, but then his character in STF was very different from his usual.
Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.
`Are these magic cloaks?' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.
`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.
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FarFromHome
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Mar 1 2007, 8:48pm
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What exactly are "franchise movies"?
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Does it just mean "movies with a built-in fanbase that we can keep tapping into"? Or does it have some more specific, technical meaning? Does it imply, for example, that it's part of a sort of turnkey operation (like a fast-food franchise) with its own expected look-and-feel (James Bond and Harry Potter spring to mind) that are perceived as a series even if the director changes?
Both New Line, in the link you gave, and MGM in the link from the home page, refer to The Hobbit as part of their franchise. Is that a good thing or a bad thing, I wonder?
...and the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew,
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
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elvenhobbit
Nargothrond
Mar 1 2007, 9:05pm
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*chokes on drink, re-reads...*
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Wow.
Time does wonders for all things...
*fingers crossed*
-e_H-
Elven by name, Hobbit by nature
'Road lead ever on and on
down from the door where it began
now far ahead the road has gone
down from where all began' -FOTR-
and through all the world has changed
the ages come and go with time
and yet those remain unchanged
unto they journey westward
over the sea...
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Darkstone
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Mar 1 2007, 9:09pm
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"Franchise movies" are movies that have a built audience. At best it's like the James Bond movies where the producers know they're definitely going to make a profit and so aren't nervous about spending the big bucks to maintain quality. At the other end are the direct to video franchises like "The Land Before Time" where they know parents will automatically buy the newest video for their kids no matter how bad the quality is. New Line is notoriously known around Hollywood as a franchise studio, specifically "The Studio That Freddie Kruger Built".
Pippin: "When you guys fall, does it make a sound?"
Bregalad: "Are you kidding? Scott fell last week and he hasn't shut up about it since."
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 1 2007, 11:47pm
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Franchise movies are films that can continue after a single film and that have non-film marketing possibilities. It is more than a film it is a brand.
James Bond
Star Wars
Toy Story
LOTR
Pirates
Spider-Man
Shrek
X-Men
Lots of films hope to grow up to be a film franchise. Some do, some do not.
Horror franchises are all the rage these days. Studios make horror films because they are profitible but now because the next three inexpensive films will also be profitible and so with the merchandising rights.
Saw
Nightmare On Elm Street
Friday the 13th
The Hills Have Eyes!
Some studio execs: Script? Who cares? Can it have a sequel and will it sell Happy Meals and underpants?
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Elizabeth
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Mar 2 2007, 1:21am
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1. MGM/UA is funding lots of new movies, including The Hobbit x 2.
2. NL has a financing deal for a bunch of movies, but The Hobbit isn't mentioned among them.
According to the poster formerly known as the knowlegable MrCere, distribution companies don't finance films, producing companies do. If MGM is talking about financing The Hobbit, that sounds like they plan to make it. Companies such as NL don't produce movies they don't own distribution rights to. Therefore, we'd like to think that either MGM is counting on NL to let its clock run out or has actually negotiated something.
Which makes it strange that NL keeps talking about making The Hobbit, and which directors they might or might not be talking to. Unless that's all an attempt to panic Peter into giving up his lawsuit.
Is this making any sense to anyone?
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February 9, 2007, 7:30 am
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Mar 2 2007, 4:25am
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glad you posted this. thank you!!
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 2 2007, 5:47am
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So I wrote this really long post . . .
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It was briefly about the role of distributors, and then bullet pointed the facts, speculations and conclusions.
And for the first time ever, my computer just . . . crashed.
*Goes to the garage to get hammer for self-inflicted head wound*
Its probably better to keep my foolishness to myself.
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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linkin-artelf
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Mar 2 2007, 6:57am
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The Tween Movie
Twitching Adventures with Gramma
The Passion of Gramma - Two Scoops or Three?
Drabbling On
The Trollshaw Redemption
Ok, I'll stop now.
"I walk along the shore and I gaze
At the light that radiates down
Will it travel forth to you
Far across this shimmering sea?"
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Daughter of Nienna
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Mar 2 2007, 7:13am
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Quote from your article...dated 2/27/07
"at a time Wall Street investors are eager to pay for movie making in Hollywood"
I sincerely hope they are not dependent on Wall Street. Have you heard the news?
Tuesdays big slump: "Brutal day on Wall Street"
Dow tumbles 416, biggest one-day point loss since 2001, as investors eye China, drop in durable orders.
http://money.cnn.com/...stversion=2007022718
Today's news: "Wall Street: Down but not out"
http://money.cnn.com/...stversion=2007030118
Stocks attempt comeback, but end day down
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3683270/
ray of hope: "The sky is falling... maybe not"
http://money.cnn.com/...stversion=2007030118
Essentially, Wall Street is very rocky and nervous. I am holding out to see what happens tover next few days adn weeks. I hopw it stabalizes...better yet that it bounces back to what it was before Tuesday. That might be expecting too much righ tnow, we well see.
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Nienna: “those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope . . . All those who wait in Mandos cry to her, for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom." — Valaquenta
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