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FingonOfPittsburgh
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Apr 11 2007, 1:14am
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Latin music week. Ugh. The worst part about this week was the reemergence of Gloria Estefan songs. I think Gloria Estefan week from a few seasons back was the worst week in the history of Idol (just a bit worse than Barry Manilow week).
Melinda - good as usual. I still think she's the front-runner, but she didn't quite blow me away.
Lakisha - pretty good overall. Not risky enough, as Simon would say.
Chris - he's so weird. Why do the judges love him so much? He's like a cross between Rascal Flatts and Justin Timberlake and it just doesn't work for me.
Haley - I don't like her at all. Didn't like her this week either.
Nos-Phil-ratu - he actually did a decent job. I think Simon reads Torn. How else can we explain the nods he drops every week when he critiques Phil -- "lifeless," was his comment this week. Oh and what the HELL was Phil wearing? He seriously looked like part of Fat Albert's gang!
Jordin - not bad. I hated the song of course, but she did OK. Nothing memorable at all.
Blake - pretty good performance. I don't love him, but obviously others do. He'll be in the top four.
Sanjaya - I'm so disgusted by the way the judges are acting toward him now, especially Paula. It's so ludicrously void of objectivity that it isn't even funny. Sanjaya actually had the best performance of the night! I'm trying to get through to vote for him right now. Seriously.
Should go: Probably Phil
Will go: Probably Phil
Out of the darkness of my life, so much frustrated, I put before you the one great thing to love on earth: the Blessed Sacrament... There you will find romance, glory, honour, fidelity, and the true way of all your loves on earth, and more than that: Death: by the divine paradox, that which ends life, and demands the surrender of all, and yet by the taste (or foretaste) of which alone can what you seek in your earthly relationships (love, faithfulness, joy) be maintained, or take on that complexion of reality, of eternal endurance, which every man's heart desires.
--J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #43, to his son Michael
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Aerin
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Apr 11 2007, 3:45am
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I don't care for the style, and I didn't like any of the songs, and the theme really handicapped the contestants. The one thing I did like was some of the advice JLo handed out -- she was right on target about, for instance, Blake not feeling what he was singing. He's never appeared to feel anything he sings, but he did seem to take the advice to heart and try to appear more geniune.
I have to agree that Melinda, LaKisha, and Jordin were playing it safe. Given the theme, the best they could hope for was to avoid a disaster, which they did. I think this actually was LaKisha's best vocal (in purely vocal terms). Jordin was still pitchy, had poor diction, and sounded strained on her loud high notes.
Blake clearly outperformed Chris this week, but I still don't like either of them.
I've had mixed feelings about Haley, but this was one of her weakest performances.
I didn't care for Phil's vocal at all. Dreadful. I agree that he'll be next to go (though it could be Haley).
Sanjaya played it smart, in that his "base" will love him more than ever, but he was off key, his tone was fuzzy and unsupported, and his performance still seemed like some kind of weird parody — I felt embarassed to be watching him. At any rate, he certainly didn't have the best vocal of the night -- not by a long shot. Melissa and LaKisha share that honor, though their performances were not that interesting. Last week, I suggested that the final could come down to Melinda and Sanjaya; I guess I'm not alone, because I heard someone on the radio today suggest the same thing. I do hope not, though!
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CAhobbit
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 4:05am
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Most boring week of music so far IMO. There was no fire in the singing (it's what you need when singing Latin music IMO).
Melinda - Good but a little boring.
Laksiha - Best voice of the night IMO.
Chris - Meh, unmemorable. He should have worn another outfit.
Haley - BOOORING!
Phil - He had really good promise in the song. It's just too bad he fell flat (or sharp rather) with his last note. Ugh.
Jordin - Good but again just not that great.
Blake - Good but I wasn't blown away.
Sanjaya - Oh FoP I don't understand why you love him so. I found him to be off key, fuzzy sounding and without passion in a song that should be passionate. But everyone had at least one of those issues as well with their songs. I really think the problem with Sanjaya is that he is not a mature enough singer (which can be said for a few other contestants as well) and it shows more and more each week.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor
Apr 11 2007, 4:30am
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*Chandler Bing voice* Could the show have been more boring?
Nobody was stellar, but Melinda & Lakisha were, as usual, very competent.
Okay performances and some painful audio from the rest. Blake was the only
memorable one of that bunch...well, memorable in a more positive way.
J-Lo scored more points with me than most of the contestants did.*sigh*
Hmm, maybe I should give Chris credit for providing the comedy for the night...
Oh, and how exactly does changing what made that song such a monster hit
(and butchering it at the same time) make him deserving of the praise heaped upon him?
Does.Not.Compute. .........BTW--he's known as Justin Timberfake elsewhere, and TORn isn't the only place to find the Nosferatu comparison. ;)
***Will this be the post that transports me to Rivendell?.........***
ETA: I see CAhobbit beat me to it while I was editing in another window. =)
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Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea
Apr 11 2007, 5:02am
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Well, I'm glad it wasn't all J.Lo songs
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Although I did like her as a mentor or coach or whatever. The genre could have produced some great performances, but I guess it was just too difficult and/or foreign for this group. Melinda did OK, but seemed tense. I expected more dancing from a background singer, frankly. Lakisha did OK, but I kept listening to her sing "Conga" when J.Lo told her to sing "Cone-ga". It made me laugh unintentionally. Chris - bad. Phil - would have been good, actually, but he cracked TWICE, not just once. Haley - I thought she was OK, but my kids were being kind of noisy at the time. Blake - best performance of the night, I agree. Sanjaya - Unfairly influenced me with his eyes. When I wasn't looking at him, he didn't sound very good.
Where's Frodo?
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Aerin
Grey Havens
Apr 11 2007, 5:19am
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About "conga" -- after they showed the video where JLo corrected LaKisha's pronunciation, I thought surely the judges would have called her on not getting it right.
You're also right that Phil cracked not once, but twice. Vocally, he was all over the place -- the song was way oversung, but still had no impact. I still think he has a better voice than the other remaining men, but since he can't seem to get his act together, I'm really ready for him to leave.
IMHO, anyone who thinks Sanjaya has talent as a singer seriously needs to listen to him with closed eyes! Without the distraction of watching his efforts to play to the camera, his pitch and tone problems are inescapable, and it's quite clear that he's the least accomplished singer of the final 12.
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hatster
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Apr 11 2007, 11:03am
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Oh geez. Look, the kid has the basis for a good voice and I could certainly see why he got to Hollywood, but once he got there....
He will, in time and with training, make a good crooner. As it is, his voice lacks support (as someone else here suggested) and because of that it lacks in both pitch control and dynamic range. The combination of the two leaves his voice lifeless. He has made such great advances in terms of performance that he almost overcomes the essential problems with a sort of guileless charm, but it isn't singing by any means that makes his performance almost (but not yet) listenable. (I almost always turn it off after the first few bars because I just can't bear it.... I do find it embarrassing)
About how Lakisha ignored advice.... she does that every week. So much so that I'm beginning not to like her on attitude alone.
Anyway, up until now I was voting only for the folks I thought might keep Sanjaya from getting kicked off, hoping finally to see the last of him. But as of this week, I'll start voting for Melinda only, since she most deserves to be standing on the stage at the end.
I have lost the dwarves and I have lost the wizard, and I don't know where I am; and I don't want to know, if only I can get away.
(This post was edited by hatster on Apr 11 2007, 11:04am)
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FingonOfPittsburgh
Lorien
Apr 11 2007, 12:00pm
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Sanjaya - Oh FoP I don't understand why you love him so. 
I DON'T love him!
I just feel bad for him because he's not getting a fair shake and being judged without bias based on his performances alone. His performance last night was great! And I DID vote for him!
Out of the darkness of my life, so much frustrated, I put before you the one great thing to love on earth: the Blessed Sacrament... There you will find romance, glory, honour, fidelity, and the true way of all your loves on earth, and more than that: Death: by the divine paradox, that which ends life, and demands the surrender of all, and yet by the taste (or foretaste) of which alone can what you seek in your earthly relationships (love, faithfulness, joy) be maintained, or take on that complexion of reality, of eternal endurance, which every man's heart desires.
--J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #43, to his son Michael
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FingonOfPittsburgh
Lorien
Apr 11 2007, 12:11pm
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He has made such great advances in terms of performance that he almost overcomes the essential problems with a sort of guileless charm, but it isn't singing by any means that makes his performance almost (but not yet) listenable.
This is exactly my point. His performances (not singing) have improved and are actually quite good. I voted for him last night based on his performance, not his vocal. At this stage of the competition, it's not just about the voice anymore.
About how Lakisha ignored advice.... she does that every week. So much so that I'm beginning not to like her on attitude alone.
I agree 100%! I've actually gotten a bit turned off by Lakisha. I think she's a fantastic singer, but there's this certain arrogance that started creeping out early on. She clearly thinks she has everything figured out already, and nobody can tell her otherwise. Frankly, she's probably right. She's going to go from here and make "her" album. She's obviously cut from a certain mold (gospel-inspired, big voice R&B), and she knows she's going to release that type of record and be that type of performer. She probably sees no reason to try and be more diverse. Melinda, on the other hand, will appeal to a wider base because she at least tries to be more versatile (though not nearly as much as I'd like her to).
Out of the darkness of my life, so much frustrated, I put before you the one great thing to love on earth: the Blessed Sacrament... There you will find romance, glory, honour, fidelity, and the true way of all your loves on earth, and more than that: Death: by the divine paradox, that which ends life, and demands the surrender of all, and yet by the taste (or foretaste) of which alone can what you seek in your earthly relationships (love, faithfulness, joy) be maintained, or take on that complexion of reality, of eternal endurance, which every man's heart desires.
--J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #43, to his son Michael
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Trixie Hobbit
The Shire
Apr 11 2007, 12:47pm
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I agree with what you said about Lakisha. She has a very powerful voice, but she always looks miserable on stage to me. At first I thought she was shy, but I think you are right about the arrogance. Last night she sang a happy dance song, and not once did she smile during her performance. I can't believe that any of the judges thought she was having a good time. A little smile can go a long way.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor
Apr 11 2007, 3:28pm
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just about the voice now, but it's the voice that's going to be front and center on the winner's CD.
It may not be just a singing competition, but the prize is a recording contract.
Many voters don't plan to see a performance on the Idols Tour, but a good many are seriously considering
buying whatever the winner and possibly some top finishers release. I don't think the TORn peeps
will hurt you, but watch your back if you post elsewhere. ;) Peoples is peeved, y'all!
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 4:36pm
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Is it Coonga or CANGA, LaKisha?
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They all stunk last night, but I'll admit I'm not a fan of Latin music.
Best was Blake, followed by Sanjaya- I'm with you, Fing.
I don't think he's good, but comparitively he was just FINE. Or, as Simin said, "You weren't Terrible!" Randy and Paula with their smug smirks drove my 9 year old straight to the Vote for Sanjaya! camp.
I didn't vote at all last night.
Ohhhh, and did everyone see Melinda lose the puppy eyes when Simon dissed her? Love it.
Should go: Naked Hayley or Phil
Will go: Phil
Dial Idol does not agree with me.
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 5:14pm
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Thanks to American Idol, Taylor Hicks is a household name.
So not cool.
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Aerin
Grey Havens
Apr 11 2007, 7:41pm
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I wonder how ironclad the agreement is that the winner gets a recording contract. If Sanjaya won and I were the recording company, I'd be looking for a way to get out of it!
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 7:59pm
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I don't see how they can get out of it. I guess make it as cheaply as possible and hope for the best. It can't make LESS money than Rueben Studdard has (and I *liked* the Velvet Teddybear. But I don't own his CD.)
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Aerin
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Apr 11 2007, 8:40pm
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William Hung's CD was marketed, I guess!
I think a lot of viewers forget that this is where Simon is coming from — the world of audio recording. Of course, CD sales are supported by live appearances, so a singer needs to be an effective stage performer, but how he or she comes across on the radio is still paramount. If American Idol were a radio show, the voting would be very different.
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 8:53pm
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American Idol not just about singing? Look at Elvis- who I see as an American Idol. Good voice, killer looks, bad white boy singing bluesy black boy songs. He was an idol, or an icon, but, not simply because of his singing.
I'm not saying that anyone on this show falls into that category, btw.
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FingonOfPittsburgh
Lorien
Apr 11 2007, 9:19pm
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In a good recording studio, they can make anyone sound good on a CD. BTW, I doubt Chris Daughtry is selling all his CDs based on vocal strength alone. People like him, so they buy his music. I think his voice is pretty bad, actually. The one song he has on the radio is painful to listen to.
Out of the darkness of my life, so much frustrated, I put before you the one great thing to love on earth: the Blessed Sacrament... There you will find romance, glory, honour, fidelity, and the true way of all your loves on earth, and more than that: Death: by the divine paradox, that which ends life, and demands the surrender of all, and yet by the taste (or foretaste) of which alone can what you seek in your earthly relationships (love, faithfulness, joy) be maintained, or take on that complexion of reality, of eternal endurance, which every man's heart desires.
--J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #43, to his son Michael
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 9:36pm
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Daughtry is considered to be easy on the eyes. If he simply sings without the looks or attitude, he may not have made it so high on the charts.
However, I really like his voice.
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hatster
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Apr 11 2007, 9:42pm
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Chris Daughtry has other musical talents
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He has a way of taking songs and making them his own. What he is lacking in vocal range (which really isn't all that much) he will make up for in his ability to write and arrange music. I'm willing to guess he will eventually become something not many American "idol"s will, and that is a singer/song writer.
I have lost the dwarves and I have lost the wizard, and I don't know where I am; and I don't want to know, if only I can get away.
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 9:45pm
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he plays guitar, too.
And he's hot, did I mention that?
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hatster
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Apr 11 2007, 9:48pm
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yeah but that "hot" thing is all that Sanjaya has
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and only that in a Bobby-Sherman-teeny-bopper-one-hit-wonder kinda way. (no doubt you are too young to understand that reference...which is exactly my point. Melinda will probably be remembered 20 or 30 years from now and probably still be performing. Sanjaya has a very limited shelf-life.)
I have lost the dwarves and I have lost the wizard, and I don't know where I am; and I don't want to know, if only I can get away.
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Farawyn
Rohan
Apr 11 2007, 9:49pm
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I had a Bobby Sherman lunchbox in first grade.
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some Sanjaya. It's ok to like the bad singer if you so choose. 
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