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Darkstone
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Mar 12 2007, 3:43pm
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Daylight Savings Time
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About one third of Americans suffer from sleep disorder.
A couple of symptoms of sleep disorder are slowed thinking and trouble paying attention.
One of the top recommended treatments for sleep disorders is pretty simple: Go to bed and get up at the same times each day. In about six months you should be cured.
But every six months the government changes the time, and you’re right back where you started.
Coincidence? I think not!!
Pippin: "When you guys fall, does it make a sound?"
Bregalad: "Are you kidding? Scott fell last week and he hasn't shut up about it since."
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grammaboodawg
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Mar 12 2007, 4:08pm
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That hour... I REALLY REALLY feel it when it's not there! The other end in the fall is fine when we gain an hour, but this one just rocks my world! Six months? When in the world does anyone have 6 months of a regular(ish) routine of sleep!? So yeah, the government's not helping.
Then there are those states that do not participate in the time change. When I was living in Indiana, I had one client that lived in Michigan and drove across to Indiana to work. Talk about your "time" issues!
My daughter went into one of those sleep clinics under doctor's orders because she's got serious problems sleeping... has for years. So there she is in a strange room, strange bed, wired for sound and is expected to sleep while they video tape her. Throughout the night, there were people chatting in the hallway outside, and someone came in every 2.5 hours to make sure the probes on her head were still in place. GEEZ!
I need a nap.
 
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Ciars
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Mar 12 2007, 4:21pm
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maybe new line need more naps? n/t
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May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
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Alcarcalime
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Mar 12 2007, 4:28pm
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I find the reason for it pretty lame, also. How does it save energy (not turning on your lights as early in the evening) when you have to have your lights on longer in the morning. Doesn't it even out?
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Owlyross
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Mar 12 2007, 4:37pm
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Until I can have some time at home in the evening when it's still light. It's awful getting up in the dark, going to work, and coming home in the dark.
The past few weeks have been lightening up and it's been brilliant.
I'm sure I've got SAD...
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Benjamin Franklin
The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
Horace Walpole (1717 - 1797)
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Elberbeth
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Mar 12 2007, 4:39pm
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It takes me at least a week to recover. And almost as long for the elevators in my building (which are time-controlled) to get adjusted. It's not like it's a surprise, but every year they play catch-up. As do I.
"There are some things that it is better to begin than to refuse, even though the end may be dark."
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Darkstone
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Mar 12 2007, 4:42pm
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Take a twelve foot rope. Cut a foot off one end. Tie it to the other end. According to the government you now have a longer rope.
Pippin: "When you guys fall, does it make a sound?"
Bregalad: "Are you kidding? Scott fell last week and he hasn't shut up about it since."
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Morwen
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Mar 12 2007, 5:05pm
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Especially nowadays when many people live in apartments or homes with small windows, or no privacy due to neighbors, and keep their blinds closed and their lights on all day anyway.
High energy use devices, such as clothes dryers and air conditioners aren't affected by daylight savings time at all!
My clocks on my computers and on my cell phone adjusted to the change fine, but my alarm clock, which is supposed to automatically set itself to the right time, didn't. I couldn't find the instructions for resetting the time manually so I simply set my alarm back an hour.
The clock on my cable set-top box is still wrong, and I don't think I can fix that.
Leave it to the government to decide they can control the rising and the setting of the sun by changing clocks.
I wish you could have been there
When she opened up the door
And looked me in the face
Like she never did before
I felt about as welcome
As a Wal-Mart Superstore--John Prine
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linkin-artelf
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Mar 12 2007, 5:19pm
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Couldn't they wait till next week?
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when my daughter starts spring break, then I wouldn't have to get up at 5am today. (add bleary-eyed non-smiley)
"I walk along the shore and I gaze
At the light that radiates down
Will it travel forth to you
Far across this shimmering sea?"
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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea
Mar 12 2007, 5:47pm
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that get time from the atomic clock changed except for one that never seems to get the signal. The computers seemed to have gotten their download.
I'll bed that Congress just starts an hour later so they don't lose sleep!
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L. Ron Halfelven
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Mar 12 2007, 6:21pm
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We never knows when to start cursing the Yellow Face each day.
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Move to Mordor: they're on Darkness Saving Time year-round.
"Oh my god, I've almost reached my half-life and I still haven't emitted an alpha particle. If I don't emit an alpha particle soon I'll never be able to. I've got to find some way to emit an alpha particle." -- Official Biological Clock, US Naval Observatory
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Ataahua
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Mar 12 2007, 7:05pm
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I'm looking forward to DS ending in a fortnight's time
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because then the mornings will be lighter again for a while as we slide through Autumn. My only problem with DS starting in October is the mornings suddenly getting darker for a while, making it harder to get up for work - although the brighter evenings are a joy.
We've got an argument going on here for DS to be three weeks longer than it is now. I say the weather and evening temps for places south of Auckland aren't worth it at this time of year.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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elvenhobbit
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Mar 12 2007, 7:22pm
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oh oh! so, whats for Summer time then?...Is it...
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Go to bed later and get up later (missing work and traffic jams may help but not if it loses favor with the boss!)
-e_H-
Elven by name, Hobbit by nature
'Road lead ever on and on
down from the door where it began
now far ahead the road has gone
down from where all began' -FOTR-
and through all the world has changed
the ages come and go with time
and yet those remain unchanged
unto they journey westward
over the sea...
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Mar 12 2007, 7:25pm
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I looove Daylight Savings Time!
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In June and July I can come home from work, scoop up Uncle Baggins, drive to the mountains, start hiking at 6 PM, and we can get a five-mile hike in before it gets dark. He works nights and doesn't get up until the afternoon, so it's especially great.
The only thing I don't like about DST is that I'm a sundial enthusiast, and all summer I have to add an hour to my sundials to get clock time.
I do have to admit, though, that yesterday I found myself quoting Robert Louis Stevenson: "In winter I get up at night, and dress by yellow candlelight..."
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(This post was edited by Aunt Dora Baggins on Mar 12 2007, 7:27pm)
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Morwen
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Mar 12 2007, 7:40pm
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I do like the long summer days.
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Maybe the solution is to have daylight savings time year-round, or to adjust work and school schedules so that people start their days earlier and thus have more hours before sunset in the evenings. The day isn't really longer because of DST, people are just fooled into getting up earlier. The sun, of course, ignores laws passed by Congress and rises and sets just as it always has.
Year-round DST would not disrupt people's sleep patterns, avoid changing of millions of clocks, and give me at least a full hour of light after my normal work day, even in December. I know that scientifically noon should occur when the sun is at the high point in the sky, but if the government's going to alter that seven months a year they might as well do it year-round.
I wish you could have been there
When she opened up the door
And looked me in the face
Like she never did before
I felt about as welcome
As a Wal-Mart Superstore--John Prine
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Greenwood Hobbit
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Mar 12 2007, 7:57pm
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We have a couple of weeks to British Summer Time yet...
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It usually takes me about three days to adjust, but it does mess with your head a bit. We may not be a big group of islands, but it's a long way from SE England to the Outer Hebrides! Hours of daylight are quite different. What suits the south can be awkward for the far north.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Mar 12 2007, 8:08pm
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I'd be fine with just getting up earlier in the summer.
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And I could probably arrange it, since I'm a college teacher. If we offered 7AM classes in the summer (we do have a few), I'd volunteer to teach them.
We had year-round DST in 1973, I think it was, and the sun didn't come up until almost 9AM. There were problems with kids wandering around in the dark trying to get to school. As a teenaged girl who walked two miles to school, I felt a little creepy about being out alone in the dark like that.
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elvenhobbit
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Mar 12 2007, 8:27pm
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'what suits the south can be awkward for the far north?'
Elven by name, Hobbit by nature
'Road lead ever on and on
down from the door where it began
now far ahead the road has gone
down from where all began' -FOTR-
and through all the world has changed
the ages come and go with time
and yet those remain unchanged
unto they journey westward
over the sea...
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Greenwood Hobbit
Valinor
Mar 13 2007, 12:28am
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When it's sunrise in London in winter, say 8am, it's still dark up in the north of Scotland until at least 9am or so. Kids in the north will be going to school in the dark. If people start talking about going onto 'double summertime' to save energy/prevent road accidents etc it might be okay for one end of the British Isles but very inconvenient for the other. Not sure how much sense that makes, but I'm too tired to make much sense anyway - I need my bed!
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Morwen
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Mar 13 2007, 12:50am
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Good point about the schoolkids
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I don't mind driving to work in the dark, but I don't like the idea of children walking to school or waiting by the side of the road for buses before daylight.
Years ago, when my father was stationed in England, my sister and I used to walk home from school in the dark in the winter (it got dark very early), and it was kind of creepy.
I wish you could have been there
When she opened up the door
And looked me in the face
Like she never did before
I felt about as welcome
As a Wal-Mart Superstore--John Prine
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Aerin
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Mar 13 2007, 4:59am
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I wish we could just stay on dayling savings year round.
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I hate the time changes, but I love DST, because I keep late hours and get to enjoy more daylight. (Getting up while it's stll dark is NEVER an issue for me, even on EST in the dead of winter! I'm simply never up early enough for it to be dark.)
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Owlyross
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Mar 13 2007, 9:46am
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As we know, nothing happens outside of London as far as policy and decision-makers are concerned...
As long as the Tube's running who cares if a few Northeners get up in the dark.
(in case you hadn't noticed, tongue firmly in cheek!)
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Benjamin Franklin
The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
Horace Walpole (1717 - 1797)
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a.s.
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Mar 13 2007, 10:18am
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I hate the time changes, but I love DST, because I keep late hours and get to enjoy more daylight.
Well, I mean "me too" I love DST and wish it was year round. What's the problem, we already mess with "real time" six months a year without engendering the Apocolypse! Let's just do it.
No, seriously, I don't see any societal or environmental changes due to DST, but I haven't looked into it. Is there any major problem caused by the change or maintenance of DST, does anyone know, by the way...just to get myself educated.
I still have to get up at the crack of dawn, because my daughter's bus gets to my door at 6:25 am. But there's something so depressing about coming home from work all day in the pitch dark, and I love the little extra light at the end of a long day, if for nothing more than sitting by a window with little light coming in and a cup of tea and my feet up. Perhaps a selfish reason for liking a major time change, but hey.
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"an seileachan"
Everybody's wondering what and where they all came from.
Everybody's worried 'bout where they're gonna go when the whole thing's done.
No one knows for certain, and so it's all the same to me:
I think I'll just let the mystery be.
~~~~Iris DeMent
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Annael
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Mar 13 2007, 3:16pm
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we have over 16 hours of darkness in December here
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DST wouldn't help much.
Everyone puts their Christmas lights up right after Thanksgiving and keeps them up through January; it's the only way to cope!
The tradeoff is loooooong days in summer . . . they can't start the fireworks until 11!
“I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is."
-- Terry Pratchett,
NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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