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Gethsemane
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Apr 28 2008, 2:42am
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Andy Serkis as Gollum confirmed
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Probably not hot news a such, particularly after Guillermo 90% confirmed to Xoanon in his recent interview that I had the most charming meeting with Sir Ian, and all bureaucracy pending, he’s on board, as is Andy Serkis. However even after the above statement Andy's US and UK PR contacts wouldn't confirm the above, that's until now. I noticed Andy had updated his website earlier with this wonderful bit of news. http://www.serkis.com/cinema.htm 2010 THE HOBBIT Director: Guillermo del Toro Role: Gollum Tbh i never doubted Andy's involvement in the Hobbit. I've always thought he deserved every bit of acknowledgment he was given for his part in the creation of Gollum, in fact i thought he deserved the Oscar for best supporting actor! But that said, i've a similar opinion for various members of the cast. I sometimes feel the high Level of acting ability on display in LOTR is something not always noted. Maybe that's acknowledgement in itself.... Still its good to have it confirmed from Mr precious himself! Damn it's been a good couple of days for this old dreamer.
it's good to have an end to journey towards, but it's the journey that matters in the end
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Elven
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Apr 28 2008, 3:05am
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even if it was expected - its just raises my confidence in the entire process that it is confirmed!! Congratulations to Andy , Gollum and Smeagol!
Were off to Hobbiton finally! Tolkien was a Capricorn!! Russell Crowe for Beorn!!
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Tampa Phil
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Apr 28 2008, 3:15am
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Andy will be doing motion capture for Smaug. To prepare for this, he is going to watch Reign Of Fire about 50 times.
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 28 2008, 3:17am
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It's also nice to see both McKellen and Serkis listing their roles in 2010. Better for us! That would make Del Toro's four/five years: August 2008 through June 2009: Preproduction Second semester 2009: Principal photography 2010: postproduction for The Hobbit and release 2011: postproduction for the sprequel and its release 2012: Extended editions It still puzzles me... are they really releasing Death Hallows part 1 at the same time as The Hobbit? (1 month difference)
Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth! Essay winner of the Show us your Hobbit Pride Giveway!
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Gethsemane
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Apr 28 2008, 3:20am
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Im with you elven on a side note i thought TORN's frontpage would have tipped it's hat to me for sending the above info along, even if hat tipping wasnt my intent  ahh well good news all the same.
it's good to have an end to journey towards, but it's the journey that matters in the end
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Sunflower
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Apr 28 2008, 3:21am
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And here we freakin' go again.
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If the folks at Variety (and the mainstream media) did their homework, they'd know by now not to use condescending words like "fanboy." You'd think that after a historic Oscar sweep, they'd know a Tolkien adaptation isn't just another "geek/nerd/comic/ action figure/blockbuster/franchise project. Well, it is...a franchise But the omlylitrary franchise....do we have to overcome all this crap again? With GDT at the helm, it's an even BIGGER insult. At first I didn't care what they called Tolkien fans but as the months went by and we fans were still called "nerds" and "fanboys" it REALLY got under my skin. Which was why I wanted it so to win a BP Oscar. *sigh* here we go again.... Fantastic to see our Andy confirmed. "I loves to hear that precioussssss Gollum voice again, yes we does....no we don't, gollum,gollum!"
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Kelvarhin
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Apr 28 2008, 3:38am
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There he stood Proud and solemn Yet happy and gay
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ShadoFaxs
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Apr 28 2008, 3:39am
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I am a geeky fangirl and proud of it! Moreover, I'm an old fangurl, so if they aren't careful I'll sue the clueless buggers for age discrimination. If I had $5 for every time entertainment writers wrote lazy, cheapshot, superficial articles about the LOTR movies I could've retired in 2004. Now, with The Hobbit in pre-production, there will be more nonsense spouted by journalists who should know better but would rather write a cliche than expend any energy to write something true. I'm just not going to let it worry me. The movies will stand (or fall) on their own merits and they won't need media approval or Oscar statues for validation. Some members of the press will no doubt continue to mischaractarize the fans and the films and make inaccurate assumptions. It's the way of the world.
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Elenedhel
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Apr 28 2008, 3:42am
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The Hobbit just wouldn't be the same without the original Gollum. Same goes for Gandalf. I just hope that they don't change the way that Gollum looks. That would be weird.
"O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! We still remember, we who dwell In this far land beneath the trees, Thy starlight on the Western Seas."
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 28 2008, 8:58am
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*wild applause* Confirmation is always good! I agree
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with you that there are several players who were ignored when it came to acknowledgment through formal awards. Shameful, actually, for Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen (nominated for FotR), Viggo Mortensen and Sean Astin especially to be ignored. I think it was for the same reason the system refused to award Peter Jackson until RotK. First, they didn't know what to do because they were "fantasy" films, and fantasy films don't win top awards. Secondly, if they awarded for astounding performances/direction for the first film, it'd be assured they'd own all three years. We couldn't have that now, could we? Personally, I'd say YEAH! If the achievement was as exemplary as these were, they deserved the awards. Typical Hollywood games. wup... rant. It burns my gall how the players were dissed. BUT, we'll see a change this time, hopefully. Andy Serkis, fersher, deserves praise for his incredible achievement and dedication to the films and his characters. *bows deeply* Thanks Andy! I'm glad you're not only back. :)
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming! "Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..." TORn's Observations Lists
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Huan71
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Apr 28 2008, 9:33am
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The whole "first film...awards for the rest" thing isn't something i'd thought about... good point though! I can just imagine a bunch of the people who decide who's best at acting and whatever else (exactly how you can compare i do sometimes wonder..?) in the movie industry, all sitting around a big, shiny (probably glass...) table in some huge boardroom somewhere, all appalled at having to give LOADS of awards to this "surprisingly" great fantasy film! Dear God... they might have to give them to ALL 3 films !! lol I thought Andy did an amazing job as Gollum. Many of my favorite scenes were him talking to himself. It's great to have him securely back on board ! This is my first "Forum type" post i've ever done in my 6 or 7..(blimey, it might be more than that?? ) years if interweb thingy use... so i just hope i'm doing this gig right !?
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Deni
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Apr 28 2008, 1:40pm
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I agree!!!! It would be very weird ,when the charaters of lotr wouldn`t be the same in the hobbit...for example Ian Mckellen..... who could act "gandalf" better than him in hobbit??? if those characters would be act by others...I think lotr and hobbit won´t go together anyway!!!!!
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sherlock
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Apr 28 2008, 2:31pm
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Andy Serkis as Gollum. He did a spectacular job!. The Two Towers is my least favorite of the three movies but I love all the scenes with Gollum. I'm watching it now and reading that part of the book and I think they handled all the Gollum/Frodo/Sam parts well. No one else could be Gollum but Andy.
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 28 2008, 2:31pm
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*high five* Awesome!! Nerve-racking isn't it? *snigger* I'm so glad you came out of the shadows to enjoy the fun! This is going to be FANTASTIC! :D Welcome!
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Huan71
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Apr 28 2008, 11:18pm
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It didnt feel right not joining in with all the speculative banter an' that. I wont be one of these "i am worried about this...(insert worst fears about upcoming movie/DVD release/toys in the shops/ directors taste in underwear etc...)". I've spent a couple of months reading such posts and, i gotta be honest...they make me larf my dear ole head off. Certain things were pretty obvious...Andy Gollum and Gandalf Mckellen being just two of them. Was it like this before FotR on the fan boards?
"Futility is the defining characterisic of life. Pain is the proof of existance."
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 29 2008, 12:15am
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the release of FotR (January 02), so I missed the insanity; but I've heard this is heading down the same path ;) The speculations are so much fun!
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming! "Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..." TORn's Observations Lists
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Slayer_Of_Orcs
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Apr 29 2008, 1:09am
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Actually, this would be a no-brainer IMO.
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They have taken the bridge ... and the second hall. We have barred the gates, but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes. Drums ... drums ... in the deep. We cannot get out ... the shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming ...
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Slayer_Of_Orcs
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Apr 29 2008, 1:10am
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... and I don't have a lot of time to hang out on the site. However, I will do what I can and not miss out on the excitement.
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They have taken the bridge ... and the second hall. We have barred the gates, but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes. Drums ... drums ... in the deep. We cannot get out ... the shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming ...
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Gethsemane
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Apr 29 2008, 5:59am
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Ive so many favourite lines and moment's within the 3 films but i have to say when Brad Diouf delivered the below
"Oh but you are alone!" "Who knows what you have spoken to the darkness. In bitter watches of the night. When all your life seems to shrink. The walls of your bower closing in about you. A hatch to trammel some wild thing." "So fair, so cold, like a morning pale spring still clinging to winter's chill." Acting and scripting on the highest order imo. One of many such moments imo.
it's good to have an end to journey towards, but it's the journey that matters in the end
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Huan71
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Apr 29 2008, 11:44am
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the release of FotR (January 02), so I missed the insanity; but I've heard this is heading down the same path ;) The speculations are so much fun! Then i guess it's gonna be quite interesting for you to see/be a part of the whole "is it going to be crap/mindblowingly amazing" thing this time around ? (i'll watch it, several times, which ever it is!! lol) What was the reaction to the movie's when you first came on? Generally very good i expect but was there much surprise and any "i told you so"'s ? Also (so's not to stray from the thread lest i incur the wrath of....well, anyone ! lol) I'd not heard of Andy Serkis before LotR's. I recognised his face, but thats about it!
"Futility is the defining characterisic of life. Pain is the proof of existance."
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 29 2008, 2:34pm
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SO many ideas and oooodles of speculation! "No, they can't do this" and "Oh, they must have that!" It had me shaking my head with wonder. However, there was a bit of a demoGRAPHIC difference here then. We had posters who were VERY outspoken about thier likes and dislikes, so the heated discussions had fur flying and tears of laughter flowing. We were always conscious of how intense we'd get, but the debates came fast and furious at times ;) What a ride! The first time I saw FotR, I bawled my eyes out at the beauty of it. I was transported and had trouble walking out of the theatre. Seriously, I was completely overwhelmed and had trouble just putting one foot in front of the other. Tears filling my eyes and washing the front of my shirt. Very attractive, I'm sure. Then I finally made it to the car and bawled some more. The ending music didn't help. It took forever for me to get home. Then I went again the next day... and the next... and the next... *sigh* I can't wait to have this "first time" experience again. A magical gift I'm anticipating with mad joy!
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Huan71
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Apr 30 2008, 12:01am
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It wasn't QUITE that intense for me..
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Though i was over the moon with how it had all been brought to life. It was a spellbinding experience. i saw fellowship 3 times. which for me is a big deal! Did you have to drive yourself home then? In your "state" that could have been a bit dangerous ! lol Your hoping for that "first time" experience again ? Just like in the Madonna song "like a virgin..." lol Well, lets hope GDT is that GOOOOD! lmao
"Futility is the defining characterisic of life. Pain is the proof of existance."
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