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Hamfast Gamgee
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May 6 2016, 1:39pm
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Watched the Hobbit movies, then watched Fotr and had their emotions at seen Balins tomb in Moria changed?
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OldestDaughter
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May 6 2016, 7:08pm
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Yes, it makes me a little more sad when I watch it.
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Considering how much I love Balin, it definitely leaves more of a mark on you when you watch FOTR and see his tomb. Makes you want to mourn with Gimli.
"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."
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ange1e4e5
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May 6 2016, 7:09pm
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I always follow my job through.
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OldestDaughter
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May 6 2016, 7:16pm
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"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."
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LSF
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May 6 2016, 8:20pm
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Watching LOTR when it first came out, and the few times I did before Hobbit, I had no idea who Balin was. So my emotion when watching that scene was "how sad for Gimli that someone he knows is dead." But now it's more impactful, since I've come to know and love him through the hobbit movies.
It's also more sad knowing the skeleton who was holding the book Gandalf reads is Ori.
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LSF
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May 6 2016, 9:31pm
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I know it wasn't explicitly mentioned in-movie
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Though you do see him writing in his journal and he does carry it with him up until Smaug dies. I do wish they had done Ori drawing Bilbo's portrait, which according to Adam Brown was talked about.
(This post was edited by LSF on May 6 2016, 9:34pm)
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ange1e4e5
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May 6 2016, 11:23pm
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Not just that, the skeleton with the book is supposed to be Ori.
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He even has the same haircut as he does in The Hobbit.
I always follow my job through.
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StingingFly
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May 7 2016, 1:15am
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Imagine a final scene with Gandalf and a couple of dwarves (including Balin and Ori) visiting for tea. Near the end of the conversation Balin mentions a quest into Moria and Gandalf has that same look on his face that he did at the pass of Caradhras.
You could substitute this in for the Thranduil/Legolas epilogue. Though Legolas finding out his mother loved him was pretty crucial to the resolution of the trilogy. 
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MyWeeLadGimli
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May 7 2016, 6:47am
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All 3 deaths are sort of indicated in the film
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In Old Bilbo's study one of the random papers strewn about is a letter sending birthday wishes from Gloin, Dwalin, Dori, Nori, Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur, the implication being that the other three have gone and met their end.
It's near impossible to read the letter while watching the movie, though.
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No One in Particular
Menegroth
May 7 2016, 6:54pm
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In FoTR, when they are reading excerpts from the Book right before the Orc attack, someone (Gimli?) Identifies a portion of the handwriting as Ori's as he wrote speedily and sometimes used elvish characters.
While you live, shine
Have no grief at all
Life exists only for a short while
And time demands an end.
Seikilos Epitaph
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MyWeeLadGimli
Menegroth
May 7 2016, 10:05pm
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Ori's book also mentions that Oin was taken by the Watcher in the Water.
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