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Article on Tolkien (Lord of the Verbs. :D)

Ethel Duath
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Jun 7 2015, 8:33pm

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http://www.slate.com/...s_so_celebrated.html

After taking that linguistics course, I actually get this better now!Smile



squire
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Jun 8 2015, 12:57am

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That was fun! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks, I've never seen that linguistic analysis of the Ring-spell in the Black Speech before. There's always somethin'.



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Ethel Duath
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Jun 8 2015, 3:41am

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And now I have the urge to go analyze [In reply to] Can't Post

anything else I can find (in LOTR at least) for the same kind of thing.

I think I should strike while the iron is hot, before I lose my nerve.



swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jun 8 2015, 6:36pm

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cool [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Na 'Aear, na 'Aear! Mýl 'lain nallol, I sûl ribiel a i falf 'loss reviol...
To the sea, to the sea, the white gulls are crying, the wind is blowing and the white foam is flying...

JARVIS is my copilot, and it's bigger on the inside...




Beleg Strongbow Cuthalion
Bree


Jun 8 2015, 8:57pm

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Great article!!!!! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

~"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― Gandalf the Grey~



dernwyn
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Jun 9 2015, 2:02am

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Fascinating! [In reply to] Can't Post

Not a mere rhyme: a perfect linguistic construct!

But then, could one have expected anything less from the Master? Cool


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


zarabia
Tol Eressea


Jun 9 2015, 2:37am

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Such wonderful attention to detail [In reply to] Can't Post

One of the many things I love about Tolkien. Smile

You realize that life goes fast
It's hard to make the good things last
You realize the sun doesn't go down
It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning 'round

~Do You Realize?, The Flaming Lips


Ethel Duath
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Jun 9 2015, 3:11am

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I should have noticed this somehow! Wonder what else I've missed.Crazy



Ethel Duath
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Jun 9 2015, 3:13am

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Thanks! I like that it appears [In reply to] Can't Post

to be something that wasn't widely known, at least until now.Smile



Ethel Duath
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Jun 9 2015, 3:17am

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I have the feeling that [In reply to] Can't Post

even with all the decades of scholarship and discussion, including on here, that we may only have scratched the surface.Smile

(P.S. Congrats to your hubby on his retirement! I hope he enjoys every minute of it--and maybe even have a little time for that French Horn, if I'm remembering correctly.SmileSmile)



dernwyn
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Jun 9 2015, 3:58pm

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Thank you, I shall send along the congrats! And his horn is akin to a French horn: it's a Euphonium, and yes, he says one thing he's going to do is get in some decent practice time with it! Laugh


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


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Ethel Duath
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Jun 9 2015, 4:11pm

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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Jun 9 2015, 8:16pm

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Comments that mix up book and film? [In reply to] Can't Post

Not the article itself, but one of the responses, with three rather misguided paragraphs about problems with Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, concluding:


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Finally, in LOTR, am I the only person who wondered at the plot lameness of introducing an unbeatable army of the dead (they are already dead!) to bring one of the long, tedious, and irrelevant battle to an obvious conclusion and then shuffle them off stage right JUST BEFORE THE ONLY BATTLE THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT HAVE MATTERED AND THE GOOD GUYS HAD NO WAY OF WINNING???? Yes, I understand the pathos at the end was created by the heroic last stand of the good guys and this would have been lost with an invincible army, but once you introduce an invincible army you can't un-introduce them. They are out there between the pages, making the rest of the damn book pointless. I suppose Tolkien needed some whiz bang way to win the first battle and was too busy conjugating elfin verbs to bother noticing.


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Ethel Duath
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Jun 9 2015, 8:41pm

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Yes, some of the comments are [In reply to] Can't Post

blood-pressure raisers for me. There weren't too many (including the one you mention) when I first posted, but I just went back, and had to stop reading pretty quickly.Mad Either that, or spend my afternoon in rebuttals.

Good to see you around here!Smile


 
 

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