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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Dor-Lomin
Dec 6 2014, 9:44pm
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The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true
Survivor to the battle for the fifth trailer
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tsmith675
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Dec 6 2014, 9:45pm
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Original Bolg design picture! And wow, Azog looks super white in that one pic.
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Carne
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Dec 6 2014, 9:56pm
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I really like Azog, but Bolg's design is so boring. Wish they had used the original look.
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ecthelionsbeard
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Dec 6 2014, 9:57pm
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For those who have seen the movie...
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does the original Bolg make an appearance in the movie at all?
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Carne
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Dec 6 2014, 10:00pm
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I haven't seen it, but according to those who have; yes. //
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A very brief cameo.
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thomasofrohan
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Dec 6 2014, 10:05pm
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How many shots is he in? Do we get a good look at the design?
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deskp
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Dec 6 2014, 10:17pm
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I wish the "old bolg" design had been Azog all along (as the design was intended for)
Also i wish they had called azog bolg.. was no reason for "resurecting" azog, when they could have jsut ahd the same story but named him Bolg and it would fit the books better.
that 'warden'? looks amazing.
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deskp
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Dec 6 2014, 10:39pm
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Thehutt said "...he's a warden at Dol-Guldur. "
wich i take as meaning, "old bolg" is now used as a warden in dol guldur
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Dcole4
Nargothrond
Dec 6 2014, 10:43pm
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I know this has been a much discussed and "old" topic, but the prosthetic orcs are SO much better in these films. WThe prosthetic orcs we have seen in AUJ, DOS and BOTFA all look incredible and actually feel PRESENT in the scenes, unlike their CGI counterparts for the most part.
I'm also not a fan of the color grading in DOS and BOTFA. PJ reacted to strongly to the criticism of AUJ HFR and added a weird "bloom" filter to everything. It's hard to describe but it's the glowing, smudgy look. It's very unappealing.
(This post was edited by Dcole4 on Dec 6 2014, 10:47pm)
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Carne
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Dec 6 2014, 10:50pm
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I know plenty of the heavily armed orcs in this movie are prosthetic, but do we get any good looks at them or are they all covered up?
Also, do any other orcs than Azog and Bolg have any lines of dialogue?
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Sebastian the Hedgehog
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Dec 6 2014, 10:57pm
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Sorry! But I agree, he looks incredible  Even kind of creepy. I still love CGI Bolg's look, but "warden Bolg" might have made a better main villain and added more of a sense of realism since he's prosthetic.
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Dec 6 2014, 11:31pm
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Old Bolg (very minor spoilers)
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He's in very briefly and gets taken out quickly. There isn't a lot of time to look at the design, other than the one good closeup which you see in the screenshots.
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deskp
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Dec 6 2014, 11:49pm
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Galadriel ends him?
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Spriggan
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Dec 6 2014, 11:57pm
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Apparently he survives for the sequel.
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Dec 7 2014, 12:02am
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Yes, very promptly.
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Smaug's Fire
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Dec 7 2014, 12:28am
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Why Azog had to be CGI. If you had a tall, imposing actor, and maybe more armor and clothes on him, he could have still have been prosthetic and look really good, same with Bolg.
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Aitieuriskon
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Dec 7 2014, 12:55am
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A number of designs were apparently attempted. The only reason they went with CGI was because at the very last minute they realized that the design they'd settled on wasn't menacing enough, which I agree with. Apparently they were using the prosthetic Yazneg design for Azog. Looking back, it's hard to imagine any of the Thorin-Azog confrontations with the Yazneg-design in place of CG Azog.
"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951
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MatthewJer18
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Dec 7 2014, 12:59am
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There simply wasn't enough time to re-film all of the scenes in which Azog appeared with a new actor and practical design, given the amount of time they had remaining until the premiere. I think Azog has been a pretty successfully CGI creation so far, in all honesty.
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Kendalf
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Dec 7 2014, 1:08am
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Some great images there! Roll on Friday!
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Salmacis81
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Dec 7 2014, 4:21am
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The larger Orcs in Tolkien's writing were often described as "man-high", which would imply that on average Orcs were generally very short compared to Men. A large Orc would most likely be the same height as an above-average height man. (Although I'd allow for a few 7 ft tall outliers).
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aifeme
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Dec 7 2014, 6:17am
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And they changed it with something rather funny and non-scary.
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