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Eruvandi
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Feb 8 2014, 5:52pm
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I can't believe we kept the thread going till it was almost on page 9 and then passed the post limit. Thralls are awesome!
Here's more Thranduil artwork to celebrate:
When I first saw this pic it was titled "Other lands are not my concern". My applause goes to whoever made it because I think it's pretty awesome!
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
What are you waiting for?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
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Altaira
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Feb 8 2014, 6:38pm
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Especially glad that you joined *and* posted that wonderful montage. Tell your friend they made a lot of people very happy today. 
Now, I must go and offset this with some Thorin pics lest I go over to the 'blond' side forever, lol. 
Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower
"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase
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Eruvandi
Dor-Lomin
Feb 8 2014, 6:50pm
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...to send the ideas in these two appreciation threads to PJ & co (and LP for that matter) just to say, "Hey, forget what the studio says. Clearly lots of people appreciate Thranduil and can see the depth of his character and want to see more of him. Please, please, please give us more of his background and more of him in general in the DOS EE and TABA."
I mean, I personally like Legolas and Tauriel and didn't have much of a problem with their roles in DOS. But I feel like they have now served the majority of their purpose at this point and TABA really needs to have Thranduil as the main elf.
I'm honestly not too worried about Legolas stealing the role of putting Orcrist on Thorin's grave because they haven't directly interacted with each other, other than when the dwarves are first captured. There has been no effort to create a "relationship" between them, so why would Legolas care if Thorin gets his sword back? On the other hand there has been much effort put into building the relationship between Thranduil and Thorin so, IMO, that shows that things are being set up for Thranduil to keep his role of putting Orcrist on Thorin's grave.
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
What are you waiting for?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
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elaen32
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Feb 8 2014, 6:59pm
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There's a limit to how many posts you can have on a thread???!!!
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I didn't know that- and congratulations RG, that you broke the barrier!! Although I think we Thorin followers have had many more threads (admittedly we had a head start), I don't know that any of them got to 400, although some may have been close! 
Is there a Tolkien topic that you have wanted to look into more deeply and write about your thoughts on it? If so, we'd like to hear from you for the next TORn Amateur Symposium- coming in April. Happy writing!
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Eruvandi
Dor-Lomin
Feb 8 2014, 7:04pm
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I'm wondering what he'll do when they next meet.
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It seems almost guaranteed that the EE is going to restore the scene where Legolas tells Thranduil that Tauriel has left. From what little we've heard/seen about that, it sounds like Thranduil's pretty ticked-off about it although, I agree with y'all that he probably saw it coming. So seriously, there has GOT to be some kind of comeuppance for such direct
insubordination. I totally agree. At the very least, she should be
demoted.
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
What are you waiting for?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
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Eruvandi
Dor-Lomin
Feb 8 2014, 7:11pm
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Mae Govannen Tabby! Welcome to the boards
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If you love Thranduil then this is definitely the thread for you!
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
What are you waiting for?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
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Eruvandi
Dor-Lomin
Feb 8 2014, 7:22pm
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"Now, I must go and offset this with some Thorin pics lest I go over to the 'blond' side forever, lol. "
We have cookies!
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
What are you waiting for?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
(This post was edited by Eruvandi on Feb 8 2014, 7:23pm)
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Papagianni
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Feb 8 2014, 7:26pm
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He is so angelic and I bet he purrs like a cat when he drinks wine or when he's having a bath in his jacuzzi.I have a crush on him since February of 2013!!!
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elf-lady
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Feb 8 2014, 8:07pm
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I'd love to drink wine with the Elvenking! I just noticed the beautiful banner hanging in the background too *grabby hands*
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Avandel
Gondolin
Feb 8 2014, 8:10pm
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while I thoroughly appreciate Thranduil, tho not a thrall (- as my heart was taken without a fight months ago by a certain fiery majestic blue-eyed mountain king with a voice that has me freeze in wonder and awe and oh gods, that dark hair swirling around him and the luminous skin *cough*) just thought if there's gonna be another Thranduil thread to keep it fair there should be another homage to the king of carven stone. Something to consider.
Anyway I'm suspicious that the puppeteer PJ who seems to know how to play to our hearts and emotions knows perfectly well the impact Thranduil would have - possibly. Interesting question - did PJ know the impact RA as Thorin would have, or is that something he just starts to discover in filming, when you can really see things take shape? Did PJ know, and/or does he understand now, the impact Lee Pace would have as Thranduil, and there seems to be an overwhelming wave of approval and demands to see more of him?
BTW as a Thorin thrall at least Thranduil is a WORTHY adversary to Thorin. Beautiful and fey and deadly. Yep, IMO PJ needs to bump up Thranduil's screen time, and reduce Legolas' who will has plenty of LOTR screen time anyway. And for me hopefully have another epic interchange w. Thorin.
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vanima ephel
Ossiriand
Feb 8 2014, 8:41pm
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And regarding Legolas, I'd have to add that I find his CGI facelift really disconcerting. It looks very Uncanny Valley sometimes. 
On the other hand, I think Lee Pace's Thranduil is getting plenty of positive online buzz. PJ and his backers will probably respond to that, but even if they don't, I can't see them omitting the Elvenking's BOFA diplomacy OR replacing him with his son for the really significant beats that come after the battle. *crosses fingers*
And I definitely agree that Thranduil's order to batten down the hatches would be pointedly directed at his son, but I think it might have had more to do with the orc saying 'elfling' when he was making his threat about 'fires of war.' I think the orc was threatening Legolas, in particular, to get to Thranduil. And it worked.
Legolas/Gimli artwork courtesy of Brianna
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Avandel
Gondolin
Feb 8 2014, 9:32pm
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"And regarding Legolas, I'd have to add that I find his CGI facelift really disconcerting. It looks very Uncanny Valley sometimes. "
What a beautiful elf OB was in LOTR. And still is in some of the DOS shots. But other DOS shots I actually wince, his face is so mask-like. And since PJ has final approval I'd like to ask PJ at some point WHY. Perhaps re TABA they will cut back some of the CGI or silicone or whatever they did to Bloom.
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Rowan Greene
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Feb 8 2014, 10:05pm
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Because when you see him in the vlogs or random behind the scenes pictures, he looks more like the LoTR Legolas/Orlando--he looks normal. So what was with all the eyeliner and CGI distortions?
I miss the LoTR Legolas.
Either way, he still can't hold a candle to his father :
"And regarding Legolas, I'd have to add that I find his CGI facelift really disconcerting. It looks very Uncanny Valley sometimes. "
What a beautiful elf OB was in LOTR. And still is in some of the DOS shots. But other DOS shots I actually wince, his face is so mask-like. And since PJ has final approval I'd like to ask PJ at some point WHY. Perhaps re TABA they will cut back some of the CGI or silicone or whatever they did to Bloom.
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Barbarb
Lindon
Feb 8 2014, 10:21pm
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I think I bought the fact they are father and son, just from Legolas' lack of formality with Thranduil and the way he asks him a lot of questions as though he is trying to learn from him. I think it provides just enough insight into their relationship without making it too obvious.
I also think Thranduil is keeping up appearances a little bit? Maybe because the wood elves are a sort of military unit he doesn't want to dole out any favouritism and almost makes a point of treating Legolas the same as everyone else.
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Eruvandi
Dor-Lomin
Feb 9 2014, 2:43am
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I also think Thranduil is keeping up appearances a little bit? Maybe because the wood elves are a sort of military unit he doesn't want to dole out any favouritism and almost makes a point of treating Legolas the same as everyone else.
(I recently switched browsers and can't figure out how to write outside of the quote box anymore so I'm putting my reply in bold)
I agree that, given the Mirkwood elves military-like culture, Thranduil would probably not want to show any particular favoritism to his son, at least while other elves are present. It would be nice if they could show us how they act when they have the opportunity to be alone together. Maybe in the EE?
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
What are you waiting for?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
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Avandel
Gondolin
Feb 9 2014, 3:32am
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"Either way, he still can't hold a candle to his father "
And surely Legolas - and Fili and Kili - have many many fans, and I myself am quite fond of the hot rock n' roll dwarves.
But no doubt to the joy of Middle Earth self-esteem therapists $$$$, it's the previous generation that has the lion's share of charisma IMO. Perhaps in 100 years in the case of the dwarves and several hundred in the case of Legolas, they too might aspire to be majestic/magnificent. But right now their elders are burning theater screens up around the world. How can we ever thank PJ?
PS. Agree - I too miss the LOTR Legolas. The side by side images - meh.
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Barbarb
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Feb 9 2014, 7:23am
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I'm hoping for a scene in the EE where they are alone, I'm interested to see if they would act differently toward each other.
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CurseOfFeanor
Ossiriand
Feb 9 2014, 10:51am
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That is exactly what I want to see in TABA:
This is still one of my all time favorites..
and this.. LOL.. it's too good not to post it (sorry if there any tauriel thralls around)
Obsessed with the Silmarillion, book purist & Thranduil junkie in one person ;)
Serving Middle-Earth since 1995
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jkm7
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Feb 9 2014, 10:52am
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That is what I was missing. Real interaction beetween father and son. Didn't PJ say around mid 2013 that DOS would be about fathers and sons? None is left of that and that is just sad. So far Legolas is only a caricature of the Legolas we saw in LotR, he only serves as a killing machine and jealous third in a stupid love triangle. Why does a superflous character like Tauriel get a scene alone with Thranduil and not Legolas? Why is he acting more kind and fatherlike towards her than towards his own son?
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ltnjmy
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Feb 9 2014, 11:08am
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And the pictures of thrandy
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dormouse
Gondolin
Feb 9 2014, 11:10am
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Because relationships between fathers and grown-up sons....
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... can be difficult, perhaps? And because it can also be easier to relate to someone who is not your child/parent... Not so much invested in the relationship.
I agree that more of Thranduil and Legolas would have been interesting: more of the father-son thing in general, that PJ did mention - but I wouldn't assume that those relationships would necessarily be good ones.
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