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book Gandalf
Nargothrond
Dec 27 2013, 5:31pm
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rather than get dragged down with plots and including and omitting certain things, my question was more to do with style!
what other movies or series have you felt captured that essence that you expect to see in a hobbit adaption.
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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bowencm
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Dec 27 2013, 6:08pm
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its like a news article buddy - no matter what you write, it always ends up being about politics and not the original subject! in this case, plot points found their way back in!! haha
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book Gandalf
Nargothrond
Dec 27 2013, 6:30pm
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its like a news article buddy - no matter what you write, it always ends up being about politics and not the original subject! in this case, plot points found their way back in!! haha
i know!! my post has nothing to do with plot, yet tauriel gets dragged into it, that was a huge post that guy wrote, not answering the original question lol
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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MyPrecioussss
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Dec 27 2013, 6:34pm
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The only visual/stylistic change I would make
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Bard would be wearing a lot less clothing. Because have you seen Luke Evans without a shirt on? I mean, damn. I get that Laketown is supposed to be chilly, but come on, costume designers! That's like going to a museum and throwing a bunch of dirty rags on a glorious work of art.
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book Gandalf
Nargothrond
Dec 27 2013, 6:51pm
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and why dont we get to see tauriels elf boobs?
becuase this isnt conan the barbarian! and this is why the books are better, becuase people always want to cheapen things!
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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book Gandalf
Nargothrond
Dec 27 2013, 8:34pm
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i saw a production of the hobbit as a play around ten years ago. was great and the dwarfs did forward rolls 2 by 2 when they arrived at bad end. AND they had the enchanted river!!
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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Darkstone
Elvenhome
Dec 27 2013, 9:50pm
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In 1968 Patricia Gray adapted The Hobbit into a two act play.
(Limited preview: http://books.google.com/...obbit%20play&f=false)
She made many omissions. For example, no Elrond, no Rivendell, no Beorn, no Laketown, and no Bard.
She also made many changes. For example, the troll William became the more sympathetic female troll Essie. The Elven King became The Elven Queen. And Thorin is the one who kills Smaug.
The play was authorized by Tolkien.
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May 1910: The Nine Kings assembled at Buckingham Palace for the funeral of Edward VII.
(From left to right, back row: Haakon VII of Norway, Ferdinand I of Bulgaria, Manuel II of Portugal, Wilhelm II of Germany, George I of Greece, and Albert I of Belgium. Front row: Alphonso XIII of Spain, George V of England, and Frederick VIII of Denmark.)
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Salmacis81
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Dec 27 2013, 10:03pm
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Was replying to Fredegar Wayfarer's post, and guess I got a little carried away. Oh well 
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Fredeghar Wayfarer
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Dec 28 2013, 12:22am
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I misunderstood the question in your original post. I have so many ideas and wishes for what "my" Hobbit film would have been like, I guess I got carried away.
In terms of style, I echo the person who mentioned 1980s Henson. Films like The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth do a good job of blending a whimsical fairy tale tone with darkness and eeriness. That's what I would expect from a Hobbit adaptation. I also think that the Rankin-Bass animated Hobbit is a better representation of the story than Jackson's films. Not only because it is truer to the plot but because it captures that fairy tale tone with darkness lurking below the surface.
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ElendilTheShort
Mithlond
Dec 28 2013, 9:04am
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but by the time of the hobbit and in fact thousands of years earlier
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Sauron was all but wholly evil, as close as possible to a wholly evil will in Tolkiens own words, and orcs due to their nature were irredeemable. The whole black and white morality that is often a criticism of Tolkiens work is a mistake to put it politely. Grey characters include Feanor, his sons, the rebelling Noldor, Denethor, Boromir, Eol, Maeglin, Turin, Mim, Thingol, the dwarves that murdered Thingol, the men in servitude of Sauron and probably heaps more.
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Yngwulff
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Jan 4 2014, 9:29am
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I think PJ was the right choice for The Hobbit. GDT was working on At the Mountains of Madness a by H. P. Lovecraft, but a ratings despute with the studio got the project scratched... GDT wanted an R rating and the studio insisted on PG-13 ... would have liked to se that one!!! The issue for me was always which Del Toro we were going to get. The "Hollywood" version is still a good blockbuster director but not IMHO on the level of Jackson with LOTR and Kong, lacking in the same level of drama and awe. A mix of that version and the "spanish" Del Toro was I'd guess what people were hoping for, a blockbuster with the depth and beauty of something like Pan's but aimed more at a family audience.
Not Kow Towing to the Studios demands is why he bailed on The Hobbit .... he was going to make his movie not what they told him to and didn't have the clout to make it stick..
No reflection on PJ either ... he has enough clout now to get what he wants for the most part and could pick and choose his battle more than someone like GDT
“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
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