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Kim
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Dec 15 2013, 11:45pm
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saw it in IMAX 3D HFR again, which is definitely my preferred way to see it. I've been toying with the thought of seeing it in 2D just for comparison, which is actually how I first saw AUJ, but I remember that the action scenes were a bit blurry in 2D, and there's so much action in DOS that I don't know if I will.
And yes, the second viewing really did it for me. I think I was a little disoriented at first because I'm so familiar with the look and feel of AUJ, and DOS felt really different, especially in the opening scenes. So the second time through, I was more prepared for those first few scenes, then was able to settle in and enjoy the rest of it. Hope you have a good experience on your second viewing!
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cats16
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Dec 16 2013, 12:34am
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I believe I was slightly disoriented at first, as well.
I'm also tempted to see it in 2D, to see what it looks like. I'll probably see it again in HFR, then go 2D.
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Magpie
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Dec 16 2013, 12:39am
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someone in a comment to a home page article
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just wrote that they saw it first in 3D and then in 2D and the colors were much better in 2D. I think some of this is at the hands of the each theater's projection equipment but I'd be curious if other people have made a comparison and what they think.
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cats16
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Dec 16 2013, 12:55am
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I'm especially curious to see the first 30 minutes in 2D. Certain shots looked a little strange (in terms of grading), although I think it was just my eyes.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 16 2013, 5:01am
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It can be up to 30% less bright than it's 2D counterpart. I've yet to see a modern 3D film myself, so i can't verify that personally.
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Alassėa Eruvande
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Dec 16 2013, 6:07pm
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I thought I was seeing The Hobbit. I think I'm more upset about having been sold a bill of goods. I don't know what that was. 
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Dwarewien
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Dec 16 2013, 10:34pm
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Loved it, though I'd give it a 4/5...
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since I rarely give movies I really like the highest rating. I even had to help a younger fan with the name of the next movie and when it's due out (he thought TABA still came out in July). Hoping to see it again on Christmas Day (since the theater it's playing in is also open on Christmas and New Year's, probably because it also has an arcade). Now, if only I can track down the Special Edition soundtrack (they still only have the regular edition in stores).
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malickfan
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Dec 16 2013, 11:07pm
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Somewhere between 2.5 and 3.5 out of 5-Loved elements, hated others
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I'm too on the fence on this one to have any definte opinions. As a fan of the book I was annoyed, as a cinemagoer I was dissapointed.
Somewhere in this trilogy lies the meat of an awesome miniseries, it's just a shame there is too much fat and badly executed sinews linking the meat.
I'm glad it was made though.
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RangerLady23
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Dec 16 2013, 11:15pm
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Not LotR great mind you, but still great. Much better than AUJ.
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arithmancer
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Dec 17 2013, 1:20am
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I liked it better than AUJ, and I liked AUJ a lot!
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macfalk
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Dec 17 2013, 12:18pm
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Liked it a lot more on my second viewing (2D)
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Especially the first two hours. The last 30 mins, not so much. 3,5/5
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Noria
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Dec 17 2013, 2:05pm
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Loved it, with a few reservations.
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So I vioted 4/5 but in a different poll might have chosen 9/10.
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Annael
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Dec 20 2013, 4:42pm
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I walked out of the theater furious with PJ. I can deal with him taking liberties with a FEW aspects of the story . . . maybe even SOME . . . but was there a part of this movie that was NOT a departure from the book, apart from Bilbo's conversation with Smaug? I felt like he took EVERY THING and said "how can we ramp this up/tease it out even more" without ever questioning whether that would add ANYTHING to the movie. And the whole 20 or 30 minutes after Bilbo talks to Smaug was the straw that broke my willingness to go along with him. WHAT WAS THE POINT?
At this point I'm not interested in seeing it again, buying ir, or seeing the third movie. Someone needs to bop PJ on the head and explain to him that he does NOT know better than Tolkien how to write a story that people will love.
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Annael
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Dec 20 2013, 7:48pm
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 21 2013, 12:40am
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It's not often I agree with you, Annael.
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But I'm with you on this!
The thing is, that's how I felt right after seeing Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring. In both cases, I'd paid very little attention to the advance publicity, and I wonder if I'd have felt less violated had I known a bit about the kind of changes from the book that were coming. (The changes in the new film are, to be sure, much worse than those in FOTR.)
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Dec 21 2013, 2:11am
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It works for me. So far, anyway.
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The thing is, that's how I felt right after seeing Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring. In both cases, I'd paid very little attention to the advance publicity, and I wonder if I'd have felt less violated had I known a bit about the kind of changes from the book that were coming.
I was not happy when I left the theater after my first viewing of FotR, either. I've learned to make more allowances for book-to-screen changes when necessary, and to read all the spoilers in preparation for changes I likely won't agree are necessary changes. These Hobbit movies have required more than that, though. I've had to go Jedi for these. They're not the Hobbit movies I was looking for. They're the somewhat Hobbit-inspired movies we're getting. I'm free to walk out at any time. I've managed to enjoy both of them, but not in the same way.
FotR was by far my favorite of the LotR movies, and I seldom make it through the series when watching at home these days (which doesn't occur very often anymore), even with the fast-forward function. I prefer AUJ to DoS so far this time around, so the pattern continues. I'll see DoS a second time and buy the DVD to share with young cousins who've read the book, but I'm not at all excited for the third installment of this series. And if the spoilers for TABA really p*** me off, particularly over the few things I actually do/did want to see...I might skip it at the theater, and wait for the DVD. I still hope I'll like it, even if just barely. I just have reeeeally lowered expectations now. :/
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Joe-Mathews
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Dec 22 2013, 5:40pm
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... but reserve the right to change my mind after TABA.
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Salmacis81
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Dec 23 2013, 3:52am
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It was NOT The Hobbit that Tolkien wrote, but I stopped expecting that story after I saw Azog standing on the precipice at Weathertop in the first movie. And I've always been a big supporter of the inclusion of Gandalf's side ventures, so I won't take points off for that being added to the plot.
DoS certainly has it's flaws, and there are a couple things about it I disliked, but the fact that there is no toilet humor and Goblin buffoonery in DoS puts it above AUJ for me (which I thought was an enjoyable, but disappointing, film). Plus, there are one or two scenes in DoS that are some of the best in all the Middle-earth movies thus far.
I know I should probably know better, but part of me is holding out hope that he will steer it back towards the book for TaBA.
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Ardamķrė
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Dec 23 2013, 6:57am
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But it's probably more like a 4.92/5. 
I'm sure anyone who knows my opinion on AUJ is shocked by that, but it's true. I loved the film! I still think it's slightly less than any of the LOTR films, but very close nonetheless.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Dec 26 2013, 4:42am
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but I can't really tell if it's because of the movie, or because I've never been as emotionally invested in The Hobbit as in LotR, or because I overdid LotR ten years ago and burned out, or what.
I did love the visual interpretation of the scenery and the dragon. But I just didn't get into the story, or care much about the characters. Not enough Bilbo, maybe. The movie only really grabbed me during his scenes. Martin Freeman is perfect in the role.
I had a similar reaction to AUJ. I loved the "Good morning" scene, and after that I kind of lost interest until the Gollum scene. I saw AUJ once in the theater and bought the DVD and watched the first half hour and then got bored and turned it off.
I have to admit that while I loved FotR and saw it many, many times (fast-forwarding through the incredibly boring cave troll scene), my enthusiasm waned with TTT and RotK. I expected to be in tears at the end of RotK, and sat there dry-eyed and baffled at my reaction. I always cry at the end of the Rankin-Bass RotK.
And I prefer Rankin-Bass' Hobbit, (except for Otto Preminger's Thranduil, of course). I really missed the music in PJ's Hobbit. I found myself playing the Rankin-Bass music in my head throughout DOS: the barrel song, and the mountain king song. But then I'm in the minority of folks who was really disappointed in AUJ not to get any Tra-la-la-lally.
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FaramirAndEowynMorningStar
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Dec 26 2013, 4:24pm
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Great action scenes and plot...
But Peter really strayed a lot from the book.
I also think that he stretched it out a bit, and there wasn't really an arc...
That's all (not spoiling anything here).
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Magpie
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Dec 26 2013, 5:34pm
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As I discussed in a long rambling 'review' on Off Topic, this isn't a Tolkien story for me. It lost the essence of The Hobbit and failed to find/achieve any epic similarity to LOTR.
As a stand alone movie, judged on the same standards I would any other movie, I liked it well enough to give it a 'Liked It' but dang it was way too long and could easily have been shorter. In fact, I think it would have been a better movie for loosing some of the side plots.
I had fewer problems with it than I did with AUJ. in that regard, I might be tempted to mentally bump it up to a 3.5. However, I could just as easily bump it down even more if I tried to review it as "Tolkien's The Hobbit." This was "Peter Jackson's The Hobbit." He took a story and ran with it.
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Loresilme
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Dec 26 2013, 9:56pm
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I really liked it, and I found I liked it more each time I saw it (three times and counting).
Although I should say in comparison, on a scale of 1 to 5, that I would give the LOTR trilogy a 6 ... or 7 ... etc :-).
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Patty
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Dec 27 2013, 3:46pm
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Magpie, my sentiments exactly, only,
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I think I actually preferred AUJ, and that's not really saying much. I only liked it well enough after it came out on blu ray and I watched it again a time or two, attempting to like it better. Maybe I will like this new movie better after watching it a time or two more. As for now, about the only thing it really had going for was the high frame rate which I saw for the first time last night. I really like it.
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Magpie
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Dec 27 2013, 5:17pm
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this concept of better or worse than AUJ came up in the car...
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My son (who doesn't spend much time dwelling on what he doesn't like so he's not a ranter but he does have *opinions*) says he thought DOS was the worst of all '5' of the Middle-earth movies. Unequivocally.
I said that, it wasn't so much that I liked DOS better than AUJ but that there were fewer things that really irked me in DOS. Man I did not like the whole Goblin King thing nor the action sequences in the cave. There were things I didn't like about DOS but there wasn't anything I disliked as much as things in AUJ. If I went only on what I liked and was magically able to ignore what I didn't... then I might rate them comparatively different.
I am aware that, at some point, this all becomes a bit absurd. For every other movie I would either love, like, or dislike it and then, go on to talk about how much I loved it and why... what I liked about it... or just walk away from it.
But I have wanted to like The Hobbit films. Lots of my friends like The Hobbit films. I want to find a way to find some middling ground and give credit where credit is due.
Or maybe it's a Minnesota thing. We don't say something is bad. We say, "It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick".
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I have yet to get the Hobbit DVD. They decided not to sell the EE version in stores so I couldn't pick it up as a whim. Then I decided to hold off and let it be a Christmas gift option. I didn't get it from anyone. I need some printer ink and wanted to bump the order up to meet minimum for shipping and handling so perhaps I'll buy it this week.
And I do plan on going to DOS a few more times. Probably once more in first run and I will try for second run but my neighborhood second run theater only ran AUJ for one week at the 9:00-ish show time. It's hard for me to make a late night show during the work week.
but I must say... even with the willingness to buy the Hobbit DVDs and go to the theaters multiple times, there is no magic grabbing at my heart like with LOTR. Maybe I'm different. Maybe the times are different. Maybe it's the fault of these recent movies. I don't know and knowing wouldn't change my life so why struggle with knowing. But it is the reality of my experience.
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