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Peterthorn of Rohan
Ossiriand
Dec 18 2013, 4:52pm
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Dos hasn't made it to the Makeup shorlist for the Oscars!
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http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/oscars-makeup-hair-american-hustle-dallas-buyers-club-hansel-gretel-bad-grandpa-shortlist/
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Old Toby
Hithlum
Dec 18 2013, 4:58pm
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Sometimes the Oscars just baffle me
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I'm still flabbergasted that Weta's make up department didn't win last year. They lost to....Les Mis, I believe.
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tarasaurus
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Dec 18 2013, 4:59pm
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I try not to let award shows bother me, it makes me sick to my stomach when these films aren't nominated/don't win. At the very least they would take the cake on costume/makeup! I wonder if they are pulling a LotR and saving all the awards for the final film?
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Arannir
Doriath
Dec 18 2013, 5:00pm
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The only category I thought the movie had a shot...
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I am pretty certain there will be Zero wins this year... and two noms for Production Design and Visual effects.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Dor-Lomin
Dec 18 2013, 5:06pm
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While this isn't the reason (it certainly helps), I don't plan on watching the Oscars this year. The choices they make are baffling most of the time, and the shows keep getting more and more embarrassing.
Even when deserving films do win/get nominated, it seems more like a mark of shame than honor these days. 
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
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Lindele
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Dec 18 2013, 5:08pm
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I think honestly the score is the best chance for DOS this year. I don't think it will win, but I think it has the best chance of winning.
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Bernhardina
Nargothrond
Dec 18 2013, 5:15pm
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Boromir: One does not simply walk into Mordor...
Gandalf: FLY, YOU FOOLS!
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happydood
Lindon
Dec 18 2013, 5:23pm
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did so well, the 'Crash' win a couple years later made me realize how fickle and political and meaningless they really are. And I don't say that out of bitterness. I love a lot of expensive movies and I think the communal experience of art is important to society, but the money spent on awards shows really rubs me the wrong way. And when they started doing that horribly forced thing where presenters address the nominees to tell them how wonderful they are, I stopped watching. Haven't seen one in three years. Just struck me as being the worst sort of self-aggrandizement.
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frodolives
Menegroth
Dec 18 2013, 5:24pm
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The makeup in the film is the same as the previous film. AUJ certainly deserved to win (Les Mis??? Really???), but you can't nominate a film for repeating what it already did.
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Avandel
Gondolin
Dec 18 2013, 5:24pm
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Gave up on the Oscars a while ago
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Boring, too political (campaigning for consideration?) and if your read about how the voting is actually done it seems sloppy. The name of the Oscars still has prestige, but for me the reality of who gets what just seems too flaky. Seems the last time the Oscars were credible, LOTR was winning everything! I look to other awards now, like all the awards PJ got from the industry this past summer, as well as the AUJ artists.
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Ham_Sammy
Dor-Lomin
Dec 18 2013, 5:28pm
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Decades ago. All the glitz. I don't know. Hollywood goes on and on about how things should be and they go out and spend a zillion dollars on food, clothes, makeup and jewelry to congratulate themselves. Not a big fan.
I try not to inject my personal feelings to much into it but I just don't have a lot of patience with hypocrisy and self serving pats on the back. To me that's what the Oscars are.
Okay. I will retire now to my Hobbit Hole and will say nothing further. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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Brethil
Gondolin
Dec 18 2013, 5:36pm
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Its all true Dood - I agree with every word here.
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did so well, the 'Crash' win a couple years later made me realize how fickle and political and meaningless they really are. And I don't say that out of bitterness. I love a lot of expensive movies and I think the communal experience of art is important to society, but the money spent on awards shows really rubs me the wrong way. And when they started doing that horribly forced thing where presenters address the nominees to tell them how wonderful they are, I stopped watching. Haven't seen one in three years. Just struck me as being the worst sort of self-aggrandizement.
I haven't watched any Oscars since ROTK's grand night. So I confess, I agree entirely with your take and despite all the superficiality and lack of focus (at times) on the art itself...I suppose its merely emotional attachment to the franchise (and to JRRT, as distant as the Estate is from the films - no criticism for it, just a statement) that makes me want them to be able to walk on stage and take that statue. Especially with fantasy in general always seeming to get the cold shoulder.
I feel divided on the issue: intellectually, it shouldn't matter. But in some way to me it does.
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Fili
Menegroth
Dec 18 2013, 5:41pm
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Welp, There's Always Next Year
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People are probably expecting the last Hobbit film to be the best (from an Academy standpoint anyway), so if these movies get any awards, it will be for TABA.
“So comes snow after fire, and even dragons have their endings.”
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Bard'sBlackArrow
Menegroth
Dec 18 2013, 7:55pm
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I did not catch many new make ups in DoS (someone correct me if there were more than these four.)
Thranduil, Beorn, Girion and the Master of Laketown are the four I can think of, since Evans and Lily seem to be wearing wigs and sport no applications on their face (beyond her ears). Outside of Beorn and the Master of Laketown, these make ups were relatively simple in their design (more natural, beauty make ups.) Thranduil's burns looked digital.
Had Azog and Bolg still been practical, I'd probably be a bit bummed. The make up I am still reeling over is Girion. If I did not know Luke Evans played him, I would have no idea it was him in the movie. I did recognize his profile, but not head on in the film.
Guess the Academy is moving toward more realism in the Make Ups Oscar.
Perhaps, Tammy and Peter King and their teams will be victorious next time. I'd like to see them win for TABA. As I suspect we'll see a lot of make ups in the last Hobbit film.
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happydood
Lindon
Dec 19 2013, 5:13am
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because as a fan with as much insight as we all have into PJ's process, I love for him to get the validation we know he deserves- if only if because he seems like such a well-intentioned guy that tries to make the best movies he can make. That don't always come off fully, I have to add, even if they're almost always entertaining to me.
I also remember tuning in a few years ago to watch Scorsese win for The Departed, which was sorely overdue- but again, it was another political win. I loved seeing him finally get that recognition but it also rang false- since George Lucas, who relentless badmouths the industry and that part of the process (and who I also greatly admire, artistic warts and all) was a presenter.
I usually celebrate awards night with a classic movie instead.
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