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tarasaurus
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Dec 14 2013, 4:18am
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Evangeline speaks of the 'love triangle' she was against
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She had agreed on the role of Tauriel as long as she was not involved in a love triangle, and according to this article, they came back saying that the studio wanted to see just that. That really sucks if it is true. At least we can't entirely blame PJ & co. for anyone who hates the love triangle idea, if it was forced upon them.
Here is the whole article!
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ecthelionsbeard
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Dec 14 2013, 4:29am
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This whole love triangle crap is getting way out of hand...
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Clearly Both Legolas and Kili have a serious thing for Tauriel. But I don't see it the other way. Tauriel does not seem interested at all in Legolas and she seems very sweet to Kili but in a totally platonic way... a la Gimli and Galadriel. It was delightful. The only think I hated was the atrociously corny 'glow' moment. Dear God just make it stop. It was so bad.
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book Gandalf
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Dec 14 2013, 4:30am
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looks like if your a women in middle earth you are destine for a love triangle!
arwen aragorn eowyn
galadriel celeborn gandalf
eowyn faramir aragorn
tauriel kili legolas
rose same fatty bolger
kind of defeats the point of having strong women roles!!! they should have been brave and cut tauriel, would have tidied up the film. hollywood said NO
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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demnation
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Dec 14 2013, 4:33am
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Studios are always muddying up films with what they think the people want. They are usually wrong.
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Elskidor
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Dec 14 2013, 4:35am
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I thought it would bug me a bit, but I just don't care. I ended up actually liked Tauriel though.
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tarasaurus
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Dec 14 2013, 4:36am
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I really, truly enjoyed the friendship of Tauriel and Kili and didn't feel it was romantic (Kili flirting a bit, but it was harmless) - for some reason I didn't see Legolas as liking Tauriel in a romantic way but I could be oblivious to the signs, LOL
I am open to changes in the movies, but the thought of a love triangle truly upsets me. I really hope it doesn't develop into a romance and they just remain good friends in TABA.
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hutch
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Dec 14 2013, 4:37am
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I actually just read that too.
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I always knew the actress had better sense than to want that for her character. Such a shame they didn't keep their word. I liked her otherwise.
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tarasaurus
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Dec 14 2013, 4:40am
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as I mentioned in my last reply post, I really enjoyed Tauriel as well!  I'm just not thrilled with a love triangle. I'm totally fine with her and Kili being friends, I think it's awesome.
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daemoon
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Dec 14 2013, 4:40am
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I think PJ is still one of those directors in Hollywood that have freedom to do whatever he wants in his movies, specially after AUJ made 1 billion.
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tarasaurus
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Dec 14 2013, 4:42am
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for some reason I just don't see him being too interested in a love triangle. I could just be ignorant since I don't know him in person of course, I just get the feeling he likes more added action sequences than a love triangle.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 14 2013, 5:10am
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I thought Evangeline Lily was great in the role,
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but the whole Kili/Tauriel/Legolas thing could have been left out of the film entirely and not only would it have made no difference, but it would have been better for it.
More room for Dol Guldur awesomeness.
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mae govannen
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Dec 14 2013, 5:25am
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This must be just your personal opinion,
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I am a bit shocked that you present it so affirmatively. Any fact that proves it as the real truth of the matter???
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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tarasaurus
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Dec 14 2013, 5:49am
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I thought her acting was great, I feel bad that she had to take on a plot she didn't want to agree on.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 14 2013, 5:54am
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I really don't see Peter Jackson coming up with the idea of a dwarf/elf love triangle. Seems much more likely to be the product of Walsh and Boyens.
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hutch
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Dec 14 2013, 6:09am
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Tauriel = Walsh & Boyens
Love triangle = studio
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Osskil
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Dec 14 2013, 6:21am
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I'm not sure that what we see suggests any kind of love triangle.
Kili seems rather smitten with Tauriel, much as Gimli was smitten with Galadriel, but nothing in their interaction suggests that she views their interaction as more than platonic. From an intellectual curiosity, she seems to become deeply, platonically affection toward him. Indeed, they interact as two people who are irrevocably separate even as they are attracted to each other's character.
It seems to me that Tauriel is really an excellent embodiment of Tolkien's female characters: often brazen, rebellious against authority figures, possessing a deeper wisdom unrecognized by those figures, drawn to people or tenets outside the recognized tropes of their society. I can see how this particular elaboration on the book could be irritating, but I think it was handled tactfully and rather close to Tolkien, particularly through the emphasis on starlight. Few things are more Elvish than starlight, and a dwarf who can see the beauty of starlight seems a fitting foil for an elf.
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tarasaurus
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Dec 14 2013, 6:26am
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who didn't see an actual love triangle. I can't remember in which thread I posted this, but I noted how I didn't see Legolas as liking Tauriel romantically. I just saw Kili being a bit flirtatious with Tauriel but that they held a platonic friendship. Maybe the love triangle was poorly translated on screen? Lol
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dubulous
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Dec 14 2013, 7:31am
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I don't think there was anything platonic about the way Kili asked if she could have loved him
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...and I'm afraid the fact that we don't get a response from Tauriel in this movie only means we'll see it in the next.
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mae govannen
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Dec 14 2013, 7:58am
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That's all right, I only wanted to know
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whether perhaps you knew of some factual info or something...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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mae govannen
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Dec 14 2013, 8:00am
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That might be more likely for me...
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but actually we don't know, do we?
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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DanielLB
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Dec 14 2013, 10:03am
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She has nothing to worry about ...
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It works, I think.
Kili is naive and just smitten. As would I be if Tauriel had saved my life in Mirkwood, shown interest in me, saved my life again along the River (and my friends), and then again saved my life in Laketown. It really harks back to Eowyn, Aragorn and Arwen.
To me, Legolas is fond of Tauriel in a brotherly way, or as you love your best friend.
I'd rather our characters had these human emotions. It is normal to be fond of someone, and to be fond of someone very quickly.
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Kendalf
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Dec 14 2013, 10:28am
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I'm not completely sure your interpretation is supported by the movies...
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Kili is naive and just smitten.
To me, Legolas is fond of Tauriel in a brotherly way, or as you love your friend
But this interpretation takes no account of a couple of key scenes we've had so far.
Firstly, the scene in the Ext Ed where Kili pronounces he doesn't fancy elf-girls, thereby signalling, as clear as day, that he was going to fall in love with one in the next movie (not just be smitten).
Secondly, the scene in DoS where Tauriel is quite evidently excited at the notion of being pledged to Legolas only to appear crestfallen when Thranduil says he would never permit it.
Thirdly, the line "Do not give him hope where there is none". Hope of what, if he considers her a brother?
Fourthly, his look of jealousy as he watches Tauriel converse with Fili in his cell.
Fifthly, her girly comment that Fili is taller than most dwarves.
Sixthly, her decision to remain behind and heal Kili rather than accompany her fellow elf into peril.
All of the above point very clearly to the fact that Tauriel and Legolas were interested in each other until Thranduil put the mockers on it and she instead turned her attention to Kili, much to Legolas's chagrin"
No? 
"I have found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love."
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DanielLB
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Dec 14 2013, 10:46am
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I still think Kili is *just* smitten, for the reasons I said above. Yes, he finds elves appealing, but that doesn't mean it's anything more than simple fondness.
As for Legolas and Tauriel, if they were *that* in love, then Thranduil's opinion wouldn't stop them. Tauriel clearly disobeys him on many occasions. Hence why I think it is more like "best friend love".
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