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StoneHex104
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Dec 5 2013, 10:18pm
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Would you please take your time to answer this question?
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Does Smaug say the lines: "My Armour is like tenfold shields, my teeth are swords, my claws spears, the shock of a tail is a thunderbolt, my wings a hurricane and my breath death!" ?
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Dcole4
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:19pm
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they refer to him a couple times by name. I was really looking forward to him so I was a tad disappointed with the way he was handled.
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NoelGallagher
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:20pm
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Are the high Fells one of the better moments in the movie, like you said, but wont mention ?!
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MatthewJer18
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:22pm
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Interesting about the barrels scene, if true
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Several online reactions have singled it out as a highlight; one critic of AUJ even named it among the best action sequences of the year.
If you truly saw the film, I'll wait and judge it for myself.
Regarding my previous comment: I carefully tried to not identify you as a troll when I requested verification for your claims. It's just as plausible that you are telling the truth, and while your review does focus quite a bit on the negatives, your tone isn't angry or confrontational (as it typically the case with genuine trolls).
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Dcole4
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:23pm
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It's more of the mentality to utterly devolve the story into an action movie. I loved AUJ, CGI and all, the effects didn't bother me.
Case in point: Thorin rides a WHEEL barrel (Edited) down a river of molten gold....
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Arannir
Valinor
Dec 5 2013, 10:25pm
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... that the action sequences and what is expected from them may be very differently reviewed by some people here and the so-called general public and reviewers.
“All good stories deserve embellishment."
Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."
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Olorin2607
Lorien
Dec 5 2013, 10:25pm
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In the sequence against Smaug? Where did he get the Barrel from?
OMG. Peter Jackson has gone crazy again  as long as it's not too Long I don't mind that though.
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Jax_Teller
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Dec 5 2013, 10:25pm
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Peter Jackson explained many times that you CANNOT have miniatures with 3D and HFR, because it won't stand up to the scrutiny, simple as that, it doesn't work.
Blunt the knives, bend them forks, smash the bottles and burn the corks.
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates !
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Dcole4
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Dec 5 2013, 10:26pm
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I'm a huge LotR fan. I actually marathoned AUJ and LOTR over the weekend to get pumped (as if I needed an excuse to rewatch them!).
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arithmancer
Grey Havens
Dec 5 2013, 10:27pm
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If yes, that is how it was handled in the novel. Thorin simply introduced them to people as his nephews. Which might be why they did it that way in the film too.
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Dec 5 2013, 10:27pm
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Can't you talk about some of the good things with a spoiler warning?
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No fun in just hearing what you didn't like 
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MatthewJer18
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:28pm
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While I cannot say for sure whether or not you've seen the film (I'll know when I see it for myself and your claims are either proven to be true or not), I'm curious enough to ask: while you said yourself that you don't want to spoil the better moments, could you at least give an idea of what they are? You've certainly provided spoilers for your least favorite moments, so it seems only fair.
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haldad
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Dec 5 2013, 10:28pm
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Peter Jackson explained many times that you CANNOT have miniatures with 3D and HFR, because it won't stand up to the scrutiny, simple as that, it doesn't work.
It's understandable, but the flip side is that HFR was a completely unnecessary choice by PJ. It was his preference alone. I wouldn't defend the lack of miniatures because of HFR for that reason.
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sarahb1863
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Dec 5 2013, 10:29pm
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Does Fili get anything to do in this movie? Or is he relegated to just hanging around in the background and worrying about Kili? Also, does Bombur actually get any lines?
Thanks for any info! :-)
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Arannir
Valinor
Dec 5 2013, 10:31pm
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Plus who judges that HFR is unnecessary?!
“All good stories deserve embellishment."
Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."
(This post was edited by Arannir on Dec 5 2013, 10:32pm)
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unexpectedvisitor
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Dec 5 2013, 10:31pm
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none of the details you mentioned bother me much on paper, i will see what my reaction to the film is. i loved scenes like King Kong fighting the two T-Rexes (which is rife with visual gags) so i have a feeling i'm gonna enjoy the barrel ride.
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unexpectedvisitor
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:33pm
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i had no problem with the CG set extensions in AUJ
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loved most of them, actually. we'll see how DoS fares.
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Drakblod
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Dec 5 2013, 10:33pm
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But what about the most important question...
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How many legs do Smaug have? Does he have 4 legs along with wings or is he a wyvern like every modern dragon is?
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Jax_Teller
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Dec 5 2013, 10:34pm
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HFR is not unnecessary, maybe you saw it in HFR and didn't like it, but I did see it in HFR, and although I love the movie, I have never had the same experience nor same emotion as my first viewing of The Hobbit in HFR.
Gollum, the trolls, the eagles, stone giants, it all felt that much more real, I felt like I was there, the action, the swooping shots, so razor sharp, so clear, so fluid, the 24fps in comparison is blurry as heck (although I got accustomed to it, after a few times).
The stone giants sequence for example in HFR is thrilling, not so much in 24 fps.
You lose the cinematic aspect, but you gain so much in exchange, not everyone likes it, I get it, but it's not unnecessary.
Blunt the knives, bend them forks, smash the bottles and burn the corks.
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates !
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Arannir
Valinor
Dec 5 2013, 10:36pm
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is a REAL dragon though. The total separation of the two terms is a modern thing.
I am sure they tried over and over what works best on screen in terms of looks & movements.
“All good stories deserve embellishment."
Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."
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Olorin2607
Lorien
Dec 5 2013, 10:38pm
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Also : Is there much of a prologue except the Bree Meeting?
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Skaan
Lorien
Dec 5 2013, 10:39pm
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A couple of people who have watched the movie have confirmed it already.
It's too bad, really, as i would've prefered 4. But i'll get over it
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haldad
Bree
Dec 5 2013, 10:41pm
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Unnecessary as in, nobody would have been saying "I wish this had been in HFR" if it wasn't filmed that way. Nobody was forcing PJ to do it that way.
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Dcole4
Rohan
Dec 5 2013, 10:44pm
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He has two legs with his wings acting as fore limbs. It worked honestly. He was a truly beautiful creation.
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