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Salmacis81
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Nov 15 2013, 12:42pm
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Thanks for the link!! 
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Glorfindela
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Nov 15 2013, 2:53pm
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Nice review (though don't know who Ratcliff is)
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Thank you for posting the links.
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sauget.diblosio
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Nov 15 2013, 3:08pm
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Pretty much agree with everything he said as far as the new scenes are concerned, both the good (the party and market scenes, The Unexpected Party, Bilbo discovering Rivendell (great), Bilbo and Elrond's conversation (also great), Bilbo and Thorin eaves dropping, The White Council) and the bad (the dwarven antics (though i did enjoy Bofur's song), all the new Great Goblin stuff (awful)). Overall, the good outweighs the bad, and the additions do help what to me is a troubled film. But, as with the TE of AUJ, the bad is pretty bad.
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AncalagontheBlack
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Nov 15 2013, 4:00pm
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He wrote a two volume treatise on the writing of the Hobbit. He was given access by the Tolkien estate to all the manuscripts, drafts, etc. along with all the recordings of JRRT reciting the Hobbit and his work chronicles the evolution of the Hobbit's creation. It's called the History of the Hobbit and is a really good read. I think it's shown in AUJ apendix 8 when the casting and development of RA as Thorin is discussed or it might be elsewhere in the bonus material. RA read it along with all the other Tolkien writing on Thorin so he could better understand how Tolkien created the character and the journey from idea to the Hobbit.
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AncalagontheBlack
Nargothrond
Nov 15 2013, 4:36pm
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It was also cool seeing that RA put so much effort into reading all the literature and really trying to connect with Thorin's persona.
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Glorfindela
Doriath
Nov 15 2013, 4:51pm
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It was also cool seeing that RA put so much effort into reading all the literature and really trying to connect with Thorin's persona.
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sauget.diblosio
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Nov 15 2013, 5:00pm
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Yes, good to see such dedication
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and thoroughness for a performance. Personally, i like, not love, RA's Thorin so far (mostly due to the script, not RA), but i'm really looking forward to seeing where he takes the character.
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Salmacis81
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Nov 15 2013, 7:22pm
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I'm actually quite impressed...
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...with Armitage's knowledge of Tolkien, just judging by a few interviews I've seen. I don't know if he's a life-long fan of Tolkien or if he only began reading it when he got the part of Thorin, but he seems to know his stuff.
As for his Thorin, I do enjoy the arrogance and grimness that he has portrayed with Thorin. The only issue I have is that I think they could have made him look less "sexy" and more Dwarvish (ie. bigger brow, more bulbous nose, and longer beard). I think some of the earlier looks they had for Thorin were a little better than the one they ultimately went with. In fact, I really liked the earlier looks they had for both Kili and Bofur as well, because they looked much more in-line with the rest of the Dwarves instead of just looking like really short humans.
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sauget.diblosio
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Nov 15 2013, 7:30pm
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and it did have quite an impression from what he's said. Also as a child, he played a role in a play based on the book, as an elf i believe, if memory serves.
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Werde Spinner
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Nov 15 2013, 8:01pm
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I know he's read The Book of Lost Tales.
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In an interview he once messed up and said 'Nauglafring' instead of 'Nauglamir'. I do the same thing myself, so that's why I noticed. And, let me tell you, I was pretty impressed at what that little slip-up meant.
"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"
"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."
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