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Arannir
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Nov 14 2013, 9:08pm
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McKellen and green screen land
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http://www.radiotimes.com/...i-should-quit-acting
This is popping up all over the net, for many the ultimate proof of how these movies were made in "the wrong way", at least when I look at some blogs and forums.
However, this is not telling the full story. Firstly, this is an issue that wasn't as big anymore once Sir Ian and the crew left Bag-End and those particular scenes. And it is talked about openly by PJ and PB in the commentary. Some now make it look as if this is an actor complaining about a whole production. In fact, the news is a whole year old and McKellen himself accepted it and took it with humour afterwards.
“All good stories deserve embellishment."
Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.
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Glorfindela
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Nov 14 2013, 9:24pm
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of how people will jump on any opportunity to criticise the film. (Don't they have anything better to do?)
To me, the episode with Sir Ian is just 'so what?' It's a part of making a film and seeing it in the commentary provides an additional dimension to understanding the process.
It was clearly explained with the EE why the particular green screen technique had to be used in the Bag End sequence for it to work. How on earth does the episode with Sir Ian in any way 'prove' that the films were made in 'the wrong way'?
Idiocy.
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Runk Snusgrop
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Nov 14 2013, 9:24pm
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You should leave a comment on that site saying the exact same thing.
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Eruonen
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Nov 14 2013, 9:37pm
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I simply viewed it as an example of the art of acting and what
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it takes to put oneself into the scene when working under less than ideal situation. He got over it and pulled it off. Next scene.....
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Fleuz
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Nov 14 2013, 9:37pm
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And now imagine Beorn's house!
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If Beorn is really that big they would have used two Green Screen Sets.
One for McKellan and another even smaller one for Persbrandt. Plus the actual real Set with the company.
I wonder who they accomplished that issue… 
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Arannir
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Nov 14 2013, 9:44pm
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Well they did use green screen later as well...
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... but not as excessive as in Bag-End where eyelines etc were very hard to get right because of how much was going on.
In many other scenes Gandalf (or others) were made bigger (or smaller) digitally and PJ says in the commentary that he wanted to hit himself for never doing it with LotR and only started doing it in the second half of the Hobbit shoot.
In other scenes they also had the chance to play around more with actors kneeling etc. So most actors did not have to act in some green limbus as McKellen had to during the first two weeks of his shoot.
“All good stories deserve embellishment."
Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.
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