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demnation
Rohan
Sep 24 2013, 9:42pm
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James Nesbitt says his daughters will play Bard's daughters
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I thought this was fascinating
http://middleearthnews.com/...lay-bards-daughters/
Just what do PJ and Co have planned for Bard and his (apparently large) family?
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Semper Fi
Rohan
Sep 24 2013, 10:46pm
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Nepotism is hardly fascinating
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I hope their roles are non-speaking parts, cameos. Cameos are tolerable because you don't even notice a kid if you blink (it isn't like Serkis kids or Jackson kids,etc stole the breakout role from someone) but real roles going to kids of cast members is unfair to real child actors.
"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards
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demnation
Rohan
Sep 24 2013, 11:02pm
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I meant from a potential story line perspective
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As far as nepotism is concerned, Peter Jackson can put his Great Aunt's second cousin in the movie for all I care.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Sep 24 2013, 11:06pm
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LOLone
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Semper Fi
Rohan
Sep 24 2013, 11:10pm
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One is 16, good luck with trying to take roles from Chloe Moretz and Hailee Steinfeld
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and another is 12, good luck with trying to steal roles from Joey King. Just sayin. Building a resume is very important so when someone gets a shot just because of mom and dad that's just like any regular job you apply for and someone kid gets because he/she can, not because they are better.
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Tauriel saved us from Itaril. Never forget.
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Semper Fi
Rohan
Sep 24 2013, 11:14pm
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to his credit he never put his kids in more than blink-or-you'll miss them cameo
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and same should apply to 2 Misses Nesbitt. Personally, I'd rather watch Flynn Bloom and Kahekili Kali (Evie's son) as Bard's children.
"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards
Tauriel saved us from Itaril. Never forget.
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Bombadil
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Sep 24 2013, 11:58pm
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It's never Fair to attack Families...
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no doubt there are many
staff members in the Background...
WE even have a TORn member
who got to be in the shot..
Just before Aragorn kissed Arwen (ROTK)
...are you upset she made it into the Film?
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Ziggy Stardust
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Sep 25 2013, 12:27am
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Wouldn't putting Bloom or Lilly's kids be the same thing?
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They're working on the film, if their kids get cameos, that's also considered nepotism. Whether it be Nesbitt's, Serkis', Jackson, Bloom or Lilly's. It would be the same thing.
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Patty
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Sep 25 2013, 1:36am
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Oh, I think Phillipa Boyens' son did a great job in TTT...
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And I'm glad he was in the role even though this was nepotism. He bought a innocence to the subplot about the unqualified young boys having to go to war that was at the heart of the Helm's Deep story. Well done.
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dormouse
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Sep 25 2013, 7:32am
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What makes you think he hasn't?
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Only teasing - I agree with you completely. I can't see that it matters who the child actor is, providing he/she is capable of doing what's asked of them.
And the storyline is far more interesting. They seem to be writing Bard as a family man, which gives him much more of a stake in the future of Laketown. There has also been talk of fathers and sons being one of the themes of DOS. And of Tauriel healing a little girl - who may perhaps be one of Bard's daughters. But none of that is any more than talk so far.
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Sep 25 2013, 7:48am
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I think it is in fact Bard's daughter who's being healed by Tauriel
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According to DOS Annual (?) Bard's daughters are named Sigrid and Tilda, and according to some other source (can't remember - could it be Empire) Tauriel is supposed to heal a little girl named Tilda.
Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought
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DeadRabbits
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Sep 25 2013, 8:36am
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... I'm almost positive that the girl's name is Tilda. I know I've read it somewhere, but can't quite remember the source - it could be the translation of an article from a German movie magazine that was floating around a couple of months ago. Can anyone with a better memory than me straighten this out?
Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought
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Sep 25 2013, 9:40am
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....you must have heard that from one of my previous posts, as I suggested that tilde may be the child whom tauriel heals
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DanielLB
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Sep 25 2013, 9:42am
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The names are in the Annual/Almanac, just not in the EMPIRE magazine article. :-) /
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Semper Fi
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Sep 25 2013, 10:49am
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for they can't work long so technically they would be just cameos. I've nothing against cameos.
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Semper Fi
Rohan
Sep 25 2013, 11:03am
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I'm not attacking families, I'm attacking nepotism
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It's funny that nepotism is fair game for criticism for all jobs except industry ones. That's where fans come to defense of celebrity's kids who jump the line. Just because one likes so-and-so celebrity, it doesn't mean that putting their kids in significant roles is OK. Yes, they have the power to do it but it doesn't mean it's right.
Look, I'm sorry that I replied to OP at all. My issue isn't with Nesbitt family but nepotism in general, and the reason I singled out this situation is because, unlike usual cameos by family members of LOTR/Hobbit cast and crew, these roles strike me as bigger, real roles. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe those roles are nothing. IMO there's a difference between blink-or-you'll-miss-them cameos and something you can put on your resume and jump over actors who are fighting for a chance to get experience. I link it to real life. You need experience to get a job and someone doesn't even have to break a sweat because they have an inside help. So I'm sorry for not being sympathetic or happy for kids who get real parts in their parent's movies.
"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards
Tauriel saved us from Itaril. Never forget.
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Elessar
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Sep 25 2013, 12:18pm
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I just don't see whats the point of getting ones knickers in a twist over. Its an nothing issue. Its at most a few minute roll in a movie. If we're talking about a regular everyday job then its worth getting upset over.
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Semper Fi
Rohan
Sep 25 2013, 12:20pm
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I overreacted. My apology.
"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards
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tolktolk
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Sep 25 2013, 2:13pm
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Those girls really didn't want to leave London and go to New Zealand - Jimmy Nesbitt tells a funny story about them sobbing for hours after he told them, and then using the opportunity to blackmail him into buying a puppy!
Incidentally, I noticed some of the cast (including Evangeline Lilly and Luke Evans) have been wishing the older girl a happy birthday on Twitter and saying they are looking forward to seeing each other, which I think is further evidence the publicity tour is about to get underway.
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Noria
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Sep 25 2013, 2:26pm
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It was take your kids to work day on The Hobbit!
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The LotR and The Hobbit movies seemed to have meant a lot to the people who worked on them, either in front of the camera or behind the scenes. I think it’s sweet that they want their children to share in something so important to them.
LotR must have hung over the early childhoods of PJ’s kids like a cloud (hopefully a fluffy white one). Though they probably hardly remember their roles, I hope they enjoy looking at the movies and seeing themselves as part of it all.
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 25 2013, 2:35pm
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I don't necessarily mind Bard being given three children
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We know that he sired children sooner or later. I just hope that his wife either shows up or (if she is dead) that her absence is explained.
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Semper Fi
Rohan
Sep 25 2013, 3:55pm
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Going by Evans and Nesbitt&Bell kids age
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he is 34, oldest girl is 16, boy is 13 and youngest girl is 12. So Bard would've had his first child at 18 which is perfectly accurate for Medieval setting. I'm always annoyed when they cast actors who are way too old for that period, like 30something actress playing unwed maiden waiting for prince charming who is also too old to be unmarried.
This is a reason why I'm dreading new Star Wars. It takes place 30 years after events in ROTK and Ford, Fisher and Hamill are in their 70s and 60s respectively but at least daughter of Han and Leia is expected to be a teenager going by the casting call and actresses who read for the part (Saorse Ronan - 19 - funny how that one is popping up on every big franchise list - Hobbit, The Avengers 2, Star Wars). So that kind of doesn't really work, such young girl for 70+ Han.
"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards
Tauriel saved us from Itaril. Never forget.
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Gondor
Sep 26 2013, 12:13am
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What if the kids of the other actors/personnel working on the film get a cameo, and they're not babies? What if they're like 8? Even then, they don't necessarily work long.
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