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chris10112
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Aug 29 2013, 9:02am
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The Hobbit: the Desolation of Smaug Manual 2013
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Out today apparently, with a "sneak peek" of Smaug.
Anyone got it?
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DwellerInDale
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Aug 29 2013, 9:53am
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The tie-in books are available for pre-order, but won't be published until the first week in November. What is your source for this?
Don't mess with my favorite female elf.
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Eleniel
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Aug 29 2013, 10:50am
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The AUJ edition was released at the end of August, too, and gave us our first glimpse of Thranduil (& Radagast, tho' he was unveiled on a calendar first) well before the movie came out. 
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DanielLB
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Aug 29 2013, 1:55pm
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Had a quick look in a couple of book shops.
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And couldn't find it. Didn't have time to stand in queue and ask. But it if has been released today, it will only be a matter of time before pictures make it online.
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Elessar
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Aug 29 2013, 2:03pm
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I'm in the US but I did find a couple sellers in the UK that had it ready to go. Not sure how long it will actually take to get here but I ordered it to put with my Annual from last year.
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DuBekar
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Aug 29 2013, 2:44pm
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Here in Sweden, i will have it in about 2-3 days they said :) If pictures haven't reach us until then i will gladly share ;)
" Why, O people of Noldor! Fëanor cried. Why should we longer serve the jealous Valar, who cannot keep us nor even their own realm secure from their enemy? And though he be now their foe, are not they and he of one kin? Vengence calls me hence, but even were it otherwise I would not dwell longer in the same land with the kin of my father's slayer and of the thief of treasure. Yet i am not the only valiant in this valiant people. And have ye not all lost your King? And what else have ye not lost, cooped here in a narrow land between the mountains and the sea? Here once was light, that the Valar begrudged to middle-earth, but now dark levels all. Shall we mourn here deedless forever, a shadow-folk, mist-haunting, dropping vain tears in the thankless sea? Or shall we return to our home? In cuiviènen sweet ran the waters under uncloaded stars, and wide lands lay about, where a free people might walk. There they lie still and await us who in out folly forsook them. Come away! Let the cowards keep this city!"
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Nevrast
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Aug 29 2013, 8:41pm
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Characters in order of importance
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I think these are always hilarious because the sizes of various characters never match up well at all with who is actually important. According to this it would be The Hobbit starring:
Bard
Azog
Bilbo
Tauriel
Fili
Thorin
Legolas
Radagast
Gandalf
featuring random orc in the corner.
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Mooseboy018
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Aug 29 2013, 9:20pm
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Reminds me of the movie posters.
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It always bugged me how much emphasis was placed on Arwen in all three movie posters...
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Kim
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Aug 29 2013, 9:26pm
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Can you (or anyone else reading this) explain the difference between the various books coming out for DOS? I only bought the 2 Weta Chronicles books for AUJ, and I’m going to get that for DOS, but I’m not sure about the other options. Are they kind of different flavors of the same behind the scenes photos and stories, with perhaps different areas of emphasis depending on the authors? I've read the various descriptions on Amazon, but it's still not clear to me.
So far, I've come across: - Weta Chronicles
- Visual Companion
- Official Movie Guide
- Annual
- Other (various activity and sticker books and the movie storybook)
Trying to decide what else I might get, and if I should go back and get some of the others for AUJ, but not sure if I can afford them all!
Thanks.
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dormouse
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Aug 29 2013, 10:16pm
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Well, I'm not Daniel, but.....
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How's this:
The Weta chronicles you know...
The Official Movie Guides are, for me, the next best thing. Brian Sibley writes them - as he did for the LotR films - and he knows a lot about Tolkien independently of the films, so he stands somewhere between book fans and film fans because he's both. His books are rather like behind the scenes documentaries - chapters on the background to the films, the start of the film-making process, costume and design, make-up, weapons - all that sort of thing, all very well illustrated with film stills and shots of work in progress.
The Visual Companions focus on the film story. They tell you about characters and places and bits about what happens and are well-illustrated with film stills, but there's no background information. They're written by Jude Fisher who is (or was) an editor at Harper Collins, the UK publisher of Tolkien's books.
The Movie storybooks are similar, I think, but smaller and aimed at a much younger age group
The Annual (which has another name in the US) is again aimed at kids and has bits about the characters and the story but also puzzles and activities - stuff like 'spot the difference', where the picture is a film still. Or a maze, just like any other maze except that you'll be finding Bilbo's way through the forest - things like that. I think mostly people buy them because they come out months ahead of the other books, so they provide a first glimpse. Either that or because they have kids! 
Hope it helps!
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Kim
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Aug 29 2013, 10:29pm
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That helps. I was thinking of getting the Official Movie Guide and the Visual Companion, but wasn't sure how similar they might be. Probably won't get the others if they're more aimed for kids (although the stickers would be fun  ). However, I'm in the non-spoiler camp as far as these books go, so don't actually want to get them before I see the movie.
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Skaan
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Aug 30 2013, 12:00pm
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Where did you get the news that there will be a Smaug sneak peek in it? Not that i don't believe you, i'm just curious because i haven't found anything so far that mentions it.
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Bexlin
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Aug 30 2013, 12:07pm
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I have a copy the only new visial is Beorn on bear form
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Elessar
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Aug 30 2013, 12:10pm
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My order from Amazon has shipped. I'll be curious to see how quickly it arrives from the UK.
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Bexlin
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Aug 30 2013, 12:23pm
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[urlhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/86158434@N02/9626512391/]
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DanielLB
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Aug 30 2013, 12:37pm
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I have to say, that CGI looks great. He looks like a real bear (to me, anyway).
And your other scans confirm that the Company are chased into his house, rather than arriving as they do in the book. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Elessar
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Aug 30 2013, 1:01pm
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Beorn does look awesome in that little shot. As Daniel said above he looks like a real bear to me. Can't wait to get the book and see everything in it. Very much looking forward to the movie. 
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DuBekar
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Aug 30 2013, 1:31pm
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The pic of Beorn is amazing IMO, and love the picture of the exterior of his "land" :) Wasn't there anymore pictures that are new or anything? would love too see them all :)
" Why, O people of Noldor! Fëanor cried. Why should we longer serve the jealous Valar, who cannot keep us nor even their own realm secure from their enemy? And though he be now their foe, are not they and he of one kin? Vengence calls me hence, but even were it otherwise I would not dwell longer in the same land with the kin of my father's slayer and of the thief of treasure. Yet i am not the only valiant in this valiant people. And have ye not all lost your King? And what else have ye not lost, cooped here in a narrow land between the mountains and the sea? Here once was light, that the Valar begrudged to middle-earth, but now dark levels all. Shall we mourn here deedless forever, a shadow-folk, mist-haunting, dropping vain tears in the thankless sea? Or shall we return to our home? In cuiviènen sweet ran the waters under uncloaded stars, and wide lands lay about, where a free people might walk. There they lie still and await us who in out folly forsook them. Come away! Let the cowards keep this city!"
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Altaira
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Aug 30 2013, 2:26pm
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For those folks on cell-phones. Hope you don't mind.
Awesome picture! The blue eyes are a subtle touch that makes you realize this isn't your ordinary bear. Thanks for posting a copy on the boards.
Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower
"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase
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narflet
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Aug 30 2013, 3:22pm
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I got this in the post today. Here are all the plot confirmation/reveals from the annual (much more than I was expecting!)
- The company is chased to Beorn's house by Beorn himself (Beorn doesn't like dwarves, but when he discovers they're running from Azog he helps them instead).
- 'Beorn is the last shape-shifter in the whole of Middle-earth. Most of his kind were killed by Azog, so when Beorn finds out that The Company are fleeing from Azog, he agrees to help them.'
- Beorn tells Gandalf that the rumours of 'a great evil' in Dol Guldur are true, which is what makes Gandalf decide to go there himself and leave Thorin & co to face Mirkwood alone.
- Thranduil has ordered that his elves are not to leave the forest, and they're not to have anything to do with any other race (especially the dwarves).
- When Thorin & co are captured, Thranduil guesses they're going to the Lonely Mountain and will release the dwarves to go on their way, for a promise of a cut of the gold. But Thorin refuses, so he imprisons them.
- Legolas isn't as set in his ways as his Dad.
- Tauriel is at odds with Thranduil and doesn't understand, or agree with, his segregation. She's 'very headstrong' and 'doesn't always follow orders'.
- Tauriel is 'quite unlike other Elves' and it's hinted that she quite likes the dwarves (or is, at least, intrigued by them).
- The wood elves give chase through the forest when the dwarves escape in barrels, but don't follow them out of the forest.
- Except for Tauriel, who does follow then to Lake-town (defying Thranduil) and Legolas who decides to follow Tauriel (because he's 'very protective of her').
- Bilbo may get separated at some point in the escape.
- Bard discovers the dwarves as they wash up in their barrels (because he's a 'great hunter and often spends his time in the hills around the river leading from Mirkwood into the Long Lake'), and eventually decides to trust them and take them to Lake-town.
- Bard has three children: Bain, Sigrid and Tilda (which explains the 'injured girl' in the piece above and is possibly part of his motivation for helping the dwarves?)
- Gandalf may do some of the following in Dol Guldur: unlock a gate; see things that aren't really there/things appear other than they are; cast a spell making it look like there's more than one of him; cast a protection spell; have to work out where to walk as there are trick stones that lead to traps.
- Lastly, there's a suggestion that Smaug is also looking for the Arkenstone.
There are a few other new pictures, but lots are from AUJ or ones we've seen before. The new ones are just posed character images of Thranduil, Tauriel, Legolas and Bard. I can scan some in in anyone wants me to.
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narflet
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Aug 30 2013, 3:27pm
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HarperCollins posted this yesterday on Facebook;
Published in advance of the second movie in Peter Jackson’s trilogy, the official Hobbit Annual is out TODAY in the UK and other international territories (in Australia on the 1st Sept). Packed with stills, characters and exclusive information from the movie. Get it today to get a sneak peek of Smaug! However, there are new photos of Smaug in it at all so it's a bit misleading. Just stills from AUJ.
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narflet
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Aug 30 2013, 3:27pm
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More like Beorn's chicken coop?! //
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narflet
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Aug 30 2013, 3:29pm
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A few, just posed character photos
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Some character shots of Thranduil, Tauriel, Legolas and Bard. There's also another 'poster' style composite image like the one used on the cover. Can scan a few images if you'd like...
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