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The White Wizard
Lindon
Feb 21 2013, 9:46pm
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Aragog vs. Shelob
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Who would win in a battle of the giant spiders? Aragog from Harry Potter or Shelob from LOTR. Personally, I am leaning towards Shelob.
True courage is about knowing not when to take a life, but when to spare one.
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Eowyn3
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Feb 22 2013, 4:06am
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I believe Shelob has more powers than Aragog. She is an offspring of Unguliant after all.
" He has just as much reason to go to war as you do. Why can he not fight for those he loves?"
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DanielLB
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Feb 22 2013, 8:23am
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Rowling stole the idea of Aragog from Tolkien.
*runs for cover*
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 22 2013, 6:21pm
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Nicely stated DanielLB...just as she stole dementors from the Nazgul and Dumbledore from Gandalf!
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I love the way the name is pretty much Aragorn with a slight change at the end. As they say, the proof is in the pudding (or in this case it's blatantly obvious).
"These are Gundabad Wargs! They will outrun you!"
"THESE are Rhosgobel Rabbits! I'd like to see them try...."
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Ataahua
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Feb 23 2013, 1:19am
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He has his many children to distract Shelob while he goes in for the kill.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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DanielLB
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Feb 23 2013, 9:47am
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I was only *half* kidding. You can find similarities in many books. Many are coincidences ... others are not ...
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23 2013, 10:17am
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Shelob has children too, she just drove them away. If they were still with her she would win, given that they'd surely be much more powerful than HP spiders.
"These are Gundabad Wargs! They will outrun you!"
"THESE are Rhosgobel Rabbits! I'd like to see them try...."
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BoromirOfWinterfell
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Feb 23 2013, 10:51am
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There was a mention of someone named "Proudfoot" in either The Half-Blooded Prince or The Deathly Hallows. If that is a coincidence, I'll bite my finger off.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards because a refusal often offends." - Terry Pratchett
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Ataahua
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Feb 24 2013, 4:13am
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Ah, but her children *aren't* with her.
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She had long ago eaten or driven away her children, which gives Aragog an advantage. Sure he's deadly, but he's a family guy. Critter. Whatever.
Family tag-teaming FTW.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Arandiel
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Feb 28 2013, 6:02am
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Messrs Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs - the creators of the Marauder's Map. Padfoot is the code name for Harry's godfather, Sirius Black. Yes, I do happen to be rereading that particular series at the moment...
And my vote goes for Shelob over Aragog, if only because her origins are so much more nefarious.
As for authors' influence on subsequent generations, it's unavoidable, and not necessarily to be disparaged, unless the later work is strictly derivative or otherwise unimaginative in its incorporation of familiar elements.
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BoromirOfWinterfell
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Feb 28 2013, 12:11pm
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Here's the link to the wiki:
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Proudfoot
Enjoy the re-read!
It's true what you say about the influence. Some things just strike me as too similar.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards because a refusal often offends." - Terry Pratchett
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Arandiel
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Feb 28 2013, 8:45pm
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Ah - one of those blink-and-you-miss-it mentions//
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elaen32
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Feb 28 2013, 10:40pm
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And not forgetting * spoilers*
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the similar effects on the wearer/bearer of the Ring and the locket Horcrux!
"Beneath the roof of sleeping leaves the dreams of trees unfold"
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Luinnár
Ossiriand
Mar 8 2013, 1:40pm
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She is a lot more ancient and cunning and the large spiders from LOTR have a tendency of killing and then consuming their own kind.
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ringme
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Mar 9 2013, 12:27am
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Shelob couldn't even stab that lardy hick Samwise Gamgee so she obviously lacks stinger to eye coordination
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imin
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Mar 9 2013, 1:06am
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Just wondering if him being in shape makes her inability to kill him any less embarrassing.
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elaen32
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Mar 9 2013, 9:20am
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to Sam being fat in the book- I have wondered that a few times when watching the movies and hearing Sean Astin going on about how fat he had to be. Sam is described as having a "round Hobbit face" but nowhere is he described as fat per se. All Hobbits have round faces. The only one of the four hobbits who is described as being fat, ironically, is Frodo, at the beginning of the book- but we can't have a lead character in a film being overweight can we?! (irony) Anyway, after all the privations they have suffered by the time they reach Shelob's lair, would either of them still be fat anyway?? No, I have never really understood the "Sam as a lard bucket" take in the films....
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imin
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Mar 9 2013, 5:37pm
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but wanted to make sure i hadn't missed one, lol.
I would have thought out of any of them, he would be the least likely to be fat due to the physical job he does - stocky maybe but not fat. I never imagined him as fat as he is in the movie - especially when the other hobbits were not even overweight and were more lean but as you say the films lead can't be fat! 
It would have been nice to see them get thinner but then they would have to take time out to film them after they lost weight, probably costing too much.
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Luinnár
Ossiriand
Mar 12 2013, 12:41pm
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Sam was blinding her and he had a special elven sword that could only stab her if she put her own force agenst it.
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sevilodorf
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Apr 8 2013, 11:54pm
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If it's kept one on one, Shelob wins
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but if Aragog gets to call in family.... he's got this battle wrapped up.
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Luinnár
Ossiriand
Apr 9 2013, 11:51am
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She has all the spiders in Mirkwood as her children.
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Luinnár
Ossiriand
Apr 11 2013, 11:38am
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breed with Aragog and then eat him and his family. She doesn't need her family.
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