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 leniel Tindome
Bree


Feb 12 2013, 5:16pm

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Stephen Fry speech Can't Post

 

Did not find any thread discussion about his speech:

http://tvnz.co.nz/entertainment-news/hobbit-fails-win-glory-mocked-baftas-5338299/video

what do you think about it? Actors mock movies theyre in (and theyre not even in cinemas yet)? Whats next?

And wheres this enthusiasm actors had about working on a middlearth project 10years ago?

sorry if that is a double thread...


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Feb 12 2013, 5:26pm

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This came up in the BAFTA thread [In reply to] Can't Post

http://newboards.theonering.net/...orum_view_collapsed;

As I hinted at there, it's probably just some biting British humour, or the kind you might expect at a roast.

I wonder though what it means for an actor who commits a significant amount of time on a project, with the expectation that his performance will be seen (hopefully leading to more work) in given season, only to have it pushed to a later date (in this case a year later)?

IIRC when speaking of LOTR, Viggo did not often mince words, depending on the issue of course.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Feb 12 2013, 5:26pm

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Meh, it's all in good fun // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


imin
Valinor


Feb 12 2013, 5:28pm

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Just a little bit of harmless fun [In reply to] Can't Post

As Arnie would say Tongue


BilboBagshot187
Rivendell


Feb 12 2013, 5:35pm

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No need to take it so seriously [In reply to] Can't Post

He is hosting the baftas on this occasion so his job is to keep it entertaining and funny , its a running joke about the hobbit being split into 3 films and so its inevitable he is going to touch on it at the biggest film awards show in Britain, he is proud to be working on these films as you can tell from this interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1M0O9kCsw

'Everywhere I lie theres a dirty great root sticking into my back!'


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 12 2013, 5:40pm

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Think its just his humor [In reply to] Can't Post

I didn't think it was anything insulting. Can see him saying it all right to PJs face and having it get a laugh in return.

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Feb 12 2013, 5:52pm

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fry [In reply to] Can't Post

 
its called sarcasm! lol and i think he was just making people take note of the film as it wasnt really up for anything big!

"You Tolkien to me?!" - Hobbit de Niro


Arandir
Gondor


Feb 12 2013, 6:36pm

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He did a similar speech last year [In reply to] Can't Post

concerning his role in 'Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows'.

Stephen Fry is a master at comedy and wit - a remarkable man! Smile

'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' Review


Eowyn3
Rivendell

Feb 12 2013, 6:37pm

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I find it rude, [In reply to] Can't Post

no wonder he is playing the Master of Lake Town. Very fitting!

" He has just as much reason to go to war as you do. Why can he not fight for those he loves?"


Arandir
Gondor


Feb 12 2013, 6:40pm

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Are you making fun, like Fry is? [In reply to] Can't Post

Or do you really think so? Crazy

The speech is from the opening of the ceremony and Fry couldn't possibly have known about 'The Hobbit' not winning awards - which makes the article redundant really. Smile

'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' Review

(This post was edited by Arandir on Feb 12 2013, 6:41pm)


Owain
Tol Eressea


Feb 12 2013, 6:43pm

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Yeah... he's having fun with it. [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of the best humor comes from when people don't take themselves too seriously.

Haha!The cutaways to Martin Freeman and his wife laughing are great.

They all know what has been said by the most critical and rather than be offended or get defensive, they are having a laugh about it.

Every actor has been nothing but ecstatic about the journey and the end result.

Martin Freeman, who was laughing right along with everyone else, also said on the BAFTA red carpet - on the same night - that he only participates in stories that he cares about... he only does movies with stories he loves.

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Hamfast of Gamwich
Rivendell


Feb 12 2013, 6:48pm

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I presume he was only going to be in film 2 anyway, given the split was at the barrels [In reply to] Can't Post

...so he was never going to be in AUJ anyway.

He just used it to make some easy gags to keep the audience laughing.


Silmaril
Lorien


Feb 12 2013, 6:51pm

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did not like it too [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
And wheres this enthusiasm actors had about working on a middlearth project 10years ago?


The same thought came to my mind. The hobbit has become a cash cow and something people are joking about.


(This post was edited by Silmaril on Feb 12 2013, 6:52pm)


dormouse
Half-elven


Feb 12 2013, 7:23pm

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You're taking it far too seriously... [In reply to] Can't Post

He doesn't mean anything like that. It's British humour - the kind of thing Stephen Fry always says when he hosts the BAFTAs. He was making the same kind of remarks about other films too, and about members of the audience. (And about Lord of the Rings in its day, too). And they weren't insulted.

He's joking, just joking. He'd say the same to Peter Jackson and they'd both laugh.


Spencissimus
Lorien

Feb 13 2013, 12:24am

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

Cracking a few jokes about the movie is harmless, and in my mind doesn't show a lack of respect towards the project. Stephen Fry is just being Stephen Fry, something he does very well Smile


Rane
Bree


Feb 13 2013, 2:49am

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We need more British humor [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe everyone would lighten up then.

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Eowyn3
Rivendell

Feb 13 2013, 2:57am

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Both, [In reply to] Can't Post

he sounds like he will make a Great Lake Town master.

" He has just as much reason to go to war as you do. Why can he not fight for those he loves?"


SķlimŽ
Rivendell


Feb 13 2013, 4:36am

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I thought it was funny [In reply to] Can't Post

We mock the things we love. I agree with the other posters that it was all in good fun and there was no venom in what he said.

And after seeing him hosting the BAFTAs I suddenly realized he would make a good Master of Laketown... :D


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Feb 13 2013, 5:34am

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In Film 2 and Film 3, I suppose you mean... [In reply to] Can't Post

There is no reason why the Master of Lake-town shouldn't be in There and Back Again unless he is killed prematurely (as Saruman was in Jackson's LotR films).

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Arannir
Valinor

Feb 13 2013, 7:10am

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There are tons of jokes out there on Tolkien, LotR movies, PJ,.... [In reply to] Can't Post

 


 leniel Tindome
Bree


Feb 13 2013, 7:49am

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Of course it is a joke [In reply to] Can't Post

but, especially the line "a thin book stretched..." came out too rude for something you "care for".


Silmaril
Lorien


Feb 13 2013, 8:02am

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i don't know him... [In reply to] Can't Post

so i believe you!


dormouse
Half-elven


Feb 13 2013, 8:21am

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It's not rude, truly... [In reply to] Can't Post

It's just a style of humour we're very familiar with here and enjoy.

Stephen Fry has hosted these awards for years and it's a prestigious event. The Academy would not bring him in to do this job if he were felt to be insulting the films and the people involved with them. This is a film industry night - it's their celebration. He just punctures the gush and pomposity that can surround these kind of events - did you notice his comments at the beginning about the length of winners' acceptance speeches?

Far more significant, I think, is that The Hobbit was so prominent on the night, with Stephen Fry himself hosting and so many of the lead actors coming up to present individual awards, and so many references to The Hobbit. That speaks of something which is held in great affection here - and yes, we do make jokes about the things we care about.


Arannir
Valinor

Feb 13 2013, 9:36am

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No... [In reply to] Can't Post

... looking at how many other hosts of similar shows have made quite some jokes that were far more "egdy" over the years, I just cannot see anything "rude" about that.

I think the only ones who will react offended by this are those who refuse to see that it is a valid discussion-point of this trilogy, especially if one just wanted an adaption of the Hobbit book. Personally, I do not even want to think about a two part Hobbit anymore - let alone one part - but OF COURSE many people may feel astranged by the three-movie solution, especially when they did not like the added stuff.

A much worse scenario would be if the Hobbit was such a fail noone would even talk about it anymore.


andwise
Rivendell


Feb 13 2013, 11:29am

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nothing to get upset about. [In reply to] Can't Post

That's just Mr Fry's way.may have sounded odd for him to say that about a movie he is in but he is a very clever and witty chap and wouldn't have said anything derogatory in any serious way.just a bit of fun that's all.

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