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frodolives
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Jan 29 2013, 11:25pm
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What new scenes will be included in the EE?
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Anyone have any ideas of what new stuff will be included in the EE?
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Kimtc
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Jan 29 2013, 11:40pm
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I would imagine more of Bilbo in Rivendell
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We saw it filmed, and his melancholy about leaving seems weird since we only saw him eat dinner and hang out at the moon runes table.
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Brethil
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Jan 29 2013, 11:45pm
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....extra tracks I presume we will see more of Bilbo in Hobbition (the footage of him in the blue coat undoubtedly) and more of Erebor. I find myself listening to that titled track a lot, its magnificent; sounds like an ancient Celtic procession. The Dwarf Lords track...? not sure if it will be origins of the Seven fathers or more immediate history of Durin's current heirs.
...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.
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ghost_matt
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Jan 29 2013, 11:58pm
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more of Bilbo in Rivendell (talking to Elrond on the balcony and seeing the shards of Narsil)
Bilbo going to the market in Hobbit, running into the Sackville Bagginses and looking around nervously for any sign of Gandalf
PJ has said there will be a scene where the dwarves play a joke on the elves before leaving Rivendell
PJ has said there would be more of the Goblin King
PJ has said the EE will only be about 20-25 minutes longer
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Fishbug
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Jan 30 2013, 12:44am
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PJ has said there will be a scene where the dwarves play a joke on the elves before leaving Rivendell
The Chronicles book shows a sketch of them rigging up dummies before they sneak out, so that may be what it is.
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Roheryn
Dor-Lomin
Jan 30 2013, 2:50am
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The Rivendell Bath House scene.
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A very secret scene, so far kept tightly under wraps. Unlike the dwarves that are in it.
C'mon, those dwarves looked a lot fresher when they left Rivendell; you know they must have scrubbed up at some point.
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Ataahua
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Jan 30 2013, 2:55am
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With the Parth Galen bathing scene as a DVD extra?
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Just as a belated filip for LOTR fans...
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Roheryn
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Jan 30 2013, 3:36am
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I've always felt rather shortchanged that PJ left that one out of LOTR.
And if DOS doesn't start with the Great River of Wilderland (Parth Carrock??) bathing scene -- which, we must remind PJ -- is ACTUALLY IN THE TEXT -- I'm just going to...to...have to find another scene in which to FTSMMOP.*
*FTSMMOP = "Forget To Swallow My Mouthful Of Popcorn" -- said of scenes that are particularly breathtaking, especially if they involve Hot Dwarves.
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Kimtc
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Jan 30 2013, 3:43am
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Yeah, but I think it would actually depress me
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Did you see what they look like in their dwarf padding? PJ wouldnt want to spring for the CGI for this scene! And remember, it wouldn't just be Thorin, Fili and Kili. We may not want to go there.
I've always felt rather shortchanged that PJ left that one out of LOTR.
And if DOS doesn't start with the Great River of Wilderland (Parth Carrock??) bathing scene -- which, we must remind PJ -- is ACTUALLY IN THE TEXT -- I'm just going to...to...have to find another scene in which to FTSMMOP.*
*FTSMMOP = "Forget To Swallow My Mouthful Of Popcorn" -- said of scenes that are particularly breathtaking, especially if they involve Hot Dwarves.
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Roheryn
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Jan 30 2013, 5:33am
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And rushes, reeds, and opaque water. And CGI where necessary. Heirs of Durin can stay in the foreground, others can be discreetly in the background. It's doable.
And afterwards, maybe we could see Thorin giving Kili a few lessons in archery...
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 30 2013, 6:13am
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For certain:
- Bilbo in the Hobbiton market.
- Bilbo gazing at Narsil in Rivendell.
Not so sure:
- Gandalf and Thorin meet in Bree; possible cameo of JRD as grandfather of Barliman Butterbur.
- Gandalf encounters Elladan and Elrohir on the road to Rivendell.
Highly unlikely to "not a chance":
- Bilbo meets 'Estel' in Rivendell.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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lurtz2010
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Jan 30 2013, 6:21am
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I've only read a few things about it online but isn't there a whole section on them in the chronicles book? I'm thinking of buying it but it's pretty expensive.
I wish they kept that scene in the theatrical because without it the Necromancer storyline felt too incomplete and Radagast was forgotten about. Gandalf and Radagast finding the ringwraith's tombs broken open would be a good set up for film 2.
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Earl
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Jan 30 2013, 6:26am
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Meaning, I just "Forgot To Hold In My Mouthful Of Water" 
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DeadRabbits
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Jan 30 2013, 8:41am
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... a scene from Old Took's birthday party, where Gandalf meets Bilbo as a child with his mother Belladonna, was shot. That scene will almost certainly be included.
Then there's the market scene, more stuff from Rivendell (Narsil, etc), the High Fells.
Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought
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Kimtc
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Jan 30 2013, 2:56pm
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I made the serious mistake of reading this just now at work.
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Trying to explain my hysterics was undoable.
And rushes, reeds, and opaque water. And CGI where necessary. Heirs of Durin can stay in the foreground, others can be discreetly in the background. It's doable.
And afterwards, maybe we could see Thorin giving Kili a few lessons in archery...
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Kimtc
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Jan 30 2013, 3:13pm
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I must be missing it--
PJ has said there will be a scene where the dwarves play a joke on the elves before leaving Rivendell The Chronicles book shows a sketch of them rigging up dummies before they sneak out, so that may be what it is.
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bborchar
Nargothrond
Jan 30 2013, 3:17pm
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with prosthetics. It would be a good segway for discussing going to Beorn's, but then again, they may just go straight there.
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Kimtc
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Jan 30 2013, 3:44pm
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Well, they did have a drawing of shirtless Thorin in the Chronicles
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So they have a template! But we never got shirtless Aragorn (only shirtless Frodo) in LOTR, so I'm not holding out much hope here.
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bborchar
Nargothrond
Jan 30 2013, 3:50pm
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I have to find this now :)
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Kimtc
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Jan 30 2013, 4:08pm
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About 2/3 of the way into the book, near the Thrain and Thror parts, I think. It's a tiny picture near the center top, showing him in the scene where he is at the anvil after the dwarves become refugees ("He never forgave, and he never forgot"). I, personally, think it was creatively the right way to go. But I am not the director, am I?
However, based on the drawing, RA would need to get Hugh Jackman's trainer.
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bborchar
Nargothrond
Jan 30 2013, 5:40pm
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I'm not a stickler for staying true to the book or anything, but I would be thrilled if they had a bit of that in there somehow ;)
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Êleniel Tindome
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Jan 30 2013, 5:48pm
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Where did you get this information from (Elladan & Elrohir)?
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Not so sure:
- Gandalf and Thorin meet in Bree; possible cameo of JRD as grandfather of Barliman Butterbur.
- Gandalf encounters Elladan and Elrohir on the road to Rivendell.
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imin
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Jan 30 2013, 5:51pm
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Can they show Gandalf meeting Thorin in Bree
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What with it being in Unfinished Tales i would wonder where they stand on doing this legally speaking?
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Rostron2
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Jan 30 2013, 6:25pm
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They can generalize the meeting with Thorin, but there's actual dialogue in the book, and they'd have to change all of it. I don't think we'll see that, but it would have been nice as a flashback where Gandalf tells the White Council his concerns about the dragon when he meets Thorin on the road.
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Roheryn
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Jan 30 2013, 7:09pm
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They've got the rights to the Appendices...
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and the meeting between Gandalf and Thorin in Bree, with a touch of dialogue, is in Appendix A of LOTR. So they could use that.
The long version of The Quest of Erebor is published as an Appendix in the second edition of Douglas Anderson's The Annotated Hobbit, complete with lots of dialogue. I don't know if they've got rights to that, but it's possible.
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