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The Auction


Jan 25 2013, 8:36pm

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The Auction Can't Post

We're looking far ahead with this post, but I'm wondering how they will

1. Close the film: Bookend with old Bilbo?

2. Work in Bilbo's return and possibly the auction.

Since Frodo has already headed off to meet Gandalf (eastfarthing Woods!) I would imagine it might be Bilbo getting ready for the party and writing some more to close out the narrative of the Hobbit, by himself.

The auction would be a very interesting scene, and views of the Shire are popular. If they do something of Bilbo and his relatives, I wonder whether Gandalf will be there to says something sage or witty when he walks up with Bilbo. 'Nothing will ever be the same, Bilbo...' or some derivative line from their final conversation in the book... 'You are just one person in the wide world after all...' would almost fit when Bilbo sees what's going on.

I don't see that we'll get something of Balin's later visit, it jumbles the timeframe a little, although it would be nice to segue from that to old Bilbo looking at some remembrance of the dwarves in his hand, or in the book (a picture of Balin?)



Jan 25 2013, 8:54pm

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Bookend with Old Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the final scene will show him looking at the One Ring, with a music change to hint that there are future problems down the road. I don't want that, but I don't think PJ will be able to resist a Revenge of the Sith ending.

Grey Havens

Jan 26 2013, 6:33am

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"Bookend" scene [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo states when talking to Gandalf on the day of his party, in "Fellowship", that he wants to get away from his bothersome relatives and finish his book. To me this suggests the final scene could be in Rivendell, either with or without Frodo.


Jan 26 2013, 12:53pm

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Couldn't it end the way his whole life turned upisde down? [In reply to] Can't Post

With a knock on the door, indicating that Gandalf has returned for Bilbo'ss 111th birthday.


Jan 27 2013, 12:05am

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Handing the cookie jar [In reply to] Can't Post

I think, just like Sam saying, well, I'm back, right from the book, young Bilbo will say his last lines from the book, but then PJ may flash forward to older Bilbo finishing the book and closing it, or handing it to Frodo...I feel multiple "endings" will happen, which I loved about LOTR.


Jan 27 2013, 2:23am

Post #6 of 9 (225 views)
How about this? [In reply to] Can't Post

Ian Holm alone
Drops the One
Into the fireplace?

Fishes it out and notices..
for the first time
that it has an inscription?

As He Looks at it..

blows out the candle..
Fade to black..


Jan 28 2013, 8:17am

Post #7 of 9 (200 views)
Extended Edition? [In reply to] Can't Post

I imagine that There and Back Again will end with Old Bilbo in a final book-end scene.

If the auction of Bag End is not in the theatrical cut then I expect it will be included in the Extended Edition.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Jan 28 2013, 6:36pm

Post #8 of 9 (187 views)
I think you're right [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm trying to come up with a reason for them to do something with the auction.

The only thing that makes it useful to the film is a tie-in to FOTR and Bilbo not liking the Sackville-Bagginses, which is one of those cultural things that isn't explained.


Jan 28 2013, 6:52pm

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Cameos [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, besides the Sackville-Bagginses, the role of Mayor of Michel Delving was supposedly cast (rumored to be actor Shane Briant); the Mayor would likely also be the auctioneer. The auction would also be a good place for cameos of young Primula Brandybuck (who should be an adolescent hobbit of 21 or 22 years) and her future spouse Drogo Baggins.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Jan 28 2013, 6:56pm)


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