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The Mitch King
Nargothrond
Jan 24 2013, 4:44am
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Smaug and The One Ring
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First, do you think any bits or scenes will be shown/added of Smaug (maybe his origin) that are not in the book?
Second, how big of a role (emphasis wise) do you think Bilbo's ring will play in the next two movies? Will they constantly be emphasizing it in parts it shouldn't really be emphasized?
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Gorgori
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Jan 24 2013, 4:56am
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Depends on ur take on when the Ring "awoke"...
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Don't have muchto say to your first question. But...
If its awakening is understood when it abandoned Golum to find a new master, then the ring could have a resonance that "attracted" evil creatures when they were in the vicinity.
If however, you interpret it to be 60 years later (like the movies seemed to portray), than no, no one should precieve the rings presence, and it should be left alone at least until it's time to setup the LOTR movies at the end.
(This post was edited by Gorgori on Jan 24 2013, 4:58am)
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stoutfiles
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Jan 24 2013, 1:55pm
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First, do you think any bits or scenes will be shown/added of Smaug (maybe his origin) that are not in the book?
Doubt it, unless PJ wants backlash. Anytime he branches away from what Tolkien wrote it causes problems.
Second, how big of a role (emphasis wise) do you think Bilbo's ring will play in the next two movies? Will they constantly be emphasizing it in parts it shouldn't really be emphasized?
I hope not, but wouldn't be surprised if he does.
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julia0925
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Jan 24 2013, 5:41pm
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I seriously doubt any of Smaug's backstory will be in the next movies.
As for the ring, in the book Bilbo uses it quite a bit--to the point where he has to admit to the dwarves that he has it. If PJ keeps to the book, as he typically does, it may seem like there's some over-emphasis on the ring, but it's not any more than was there to begin with.
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The Mitch King
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Jan 24 2013, 6:02pm
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What about any scenes with Samug that aren't in the book? Not necessarily his origin. Could they add any Smaug parts anywhere? I'm just worried we won't get to appreciate him enough!
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Lightice
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Jan 24 2013, 10:06pm
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Don't mix quantity with quality.
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What about any scenes with Samug that aren't in the book? Not necessarily his origin. Could they add any Smaug parts anywhere? I'm just worried we won't get to appreciate him enough!
One of the main reasons why Smaug is so effective is that we see so little of him. Each extra appearance would simply dilute that effect. We shouldn't see Smaug doing anything twice, to ensure that the power of his presence remains strong. Once asleep, once riddling with Bilbo, once attacking the mountainside and finally going all out to destroy Laketown. Beyond that there's little that can be added. There's only one extra thing that I can think of that PJ might consider putting in, and that could be Bilbo eavesdropping the Necromancer himself trying to recruit Smaug into his service, just as Gandalf fears.
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jimmyfenn
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Jan 24 2013, 11:59pm
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from a geeky point of view, the sauron /smaug relationship is interesting, i guess they are sort of equals?
long lost gang from morgoths days, how old is smaug? would he have been around in the first age!
"You Tolkien to me?!" - Hobbit de Niro
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 25 2013, 3:47pm
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from a geeky point of view, the sauron /smaug relationship is interesting, i guess they are sort of equals?
long lost gang from morgoths days, how old is smaug? would he have been around in the first age!
I think that it is impossible to be certain of Smaug's age one way or the other; however, Gandalf does speak of him as a young(ish) dragon when he attacked and occupied Erebor. That does imply that Tolkien's dragons are capable of reproducing and that Smaug was hatched in the mid-to-late Third Age.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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