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DanielLB
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Jan 7 2013, 7:53am
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Is this Arwen? (May have been part of previous SCOD discussion)
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While watching FOTR the other day, I noticed this Elf riding towards Rivendell (link to picture). It's not the first time I've noticed her/him, but is it supposed to be Arwen? Given she rides a white horse, and has the same cape-thing, it's easy to make that assumption. But where has she been? If it isn't her, who is it? Perhaps it's Glorfindel! And where have they been?
(Has it ever been a SCOD?)
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dungolfin
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Jan 7 2013, 1:11pm
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I always thought that maybe she had been out looking for the fellowship. Or maybe it's just to give scale to the whole scene simply illustrating that the path is narrow and difficult to follow.
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DanielLB
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Jan 7 2013, 2:06pm
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The Fellowship hasn't been created at this point, so it can't be then. Perhaps she was with Aragorn?
I can't wait for official screencaps from AUJ to come through. There's a shot of Rivendell from the DVD Screener that is in almost exactly the same location, but Rivendell is completely different.
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Magpie
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Jan 7 2013, 4:53pm
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although I suppose it could be.
To put the scene in context, this comes just after we see Frodo waking up and just before we see him up and about. All four Hobbits are in Rivendell and one can presume Aragorn is, as well. I guess she could be with Aragorn but that seems like overthinking it. It's just an establishing shot, imo, and - as dungolfin suggested - to provide a sense of scale and a sense of how Rivendell is perched on a, well.. rivened dell.
You can track some of the past SCODs here:
http://mathom-house.net/...TheDayCollectedLinks
From that collection of links, it has not been discussed. Those are maintained by Peredhil lover and they may not be up to date.
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RangerLady23
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Jan 7 2013, 9:12pm
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Hey! I've always thought that too and whether it really is or not I like to think so!
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xMb
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Jan 7 2013, 11:40pm
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It was Legolas?
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DanielLB
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Jan 7 2013, 11:44pm
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He also arrives on a white horse, so yes, he could also be the mystery elf.
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Ardamírë
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Jan 7 2013, 11:59pm
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He wears a completely different cloak when he arrives. I think it's far more likely it's just random elf guard #4 in an establishing shot.
There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).
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Earl
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Jan 8 2013, 7:20am
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I always assumed it was Boromir...
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... for no particular reason. My assumption is obviously incorrect.
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Elessar
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Jan 8 2013, 2:25pm
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Always thought it was Arwen myself
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Rostron2
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Jan 8 2013, 5:59pm
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I never made that connection before...
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It could be they intended some other 'return to Rivendell' after the flight to the ford, and Frodo's collapse.
The cape and horse seem similar to what she wears when she's leaving Rivendell in TTT and turns back, etc.
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Ardamírë
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Jan 8 2013, 6:11pm
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There appears to be a bow coming out under the cape
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So I don't think it's Arwen. Or if it is, it's probably a remnant of XenArwen.
There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).
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DanielLB
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Jan 8 2013, 6:15pm
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Although Legolas is wearing a different cosutme, it does match his bow. /
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Ardamírë
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Jan 8 2013, 6:20pm
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It's true, but then, it's just a bow. Anyone could have one, and it's not like you can see much of it to tell if it's actually Legolas's.
I think it's not meant to be anyone in particular anymore. Maybe at one point it was XenArwen, like I said, but not anymore.
There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).
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Buchanicus
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Jan 12 2013, 8:30pm
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I always thought it was just an unnamed Elf
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Thinking that it's suppose to be someone specific, especially a main character, kind of shrinks the world for me.
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alienorchid
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Jan 13 2013, 1:14pm
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I just thought it was a random elf of Rivendell
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but I also considered that it might be some unnamed elf who has come for the Council.
I like to think it is just a random elf, though, because it allows my imagination to run wild - what might their name be? Is it a male or female? What are their favourite past times? etc. :)
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weaver
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Jan 17 2013, 12:35am
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Reminds me of that later shot of Elrond in his hooded cape on horseback....
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There's not an image of it in the screencap library, but there is that one shot of a person in a hooded cape riding a white horse (I think it's white!) up the mountain to Theoden's camp, and then we find out it's Elrond later.
I don't think these shots were meant to be bookends or anything, it's just an association that I thought of so I thought I'd throw it out there...
In this Rivendell shot, Arwen has just saved Frodo and Elrond has just healed him and Legolas hasn't arrived yet. So I vote for "random elf", and perhaps a sentry or guard of sorts, watching the perimeter/borders -- it would be natural to double the guard after Frodo and company show up with news that the Nazgul are out and about and causing trouble...
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