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"2D" glasses coming to help the 3D challenged! Whaaaa?

Lissuin
Doriath


Dec 2 2012, 11:09pm

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I sent this email to the company that made the limited edition 3D glasses for The Hobbit:

"I bought a pair of the special Hobbit 3D eye glasses at the Wellington premiere hobbit craft market this week. One of your reps said that because there are some older people/parents who will take their kids to the 3D screenings but don't want to risk eye strain themselves, the company has produced glasses to convert 3D to 2D, basically blocking out one lens so that the screen appears as 2D. He said that polls had shown that this would be popular, so they've been approved.
He said something about where they would be available, but I have forgotten. Can you say in which countries, cities or cinema chains these will be available?"

Adrian Davey at look3d.com wrote back:

"We are currently speaking with a few cinemas around the world about these "2D" glasses but currently they are not available. I can keep in touch over the coming months and let you know when they become available.
In the meantime, when watching a 3D film, you can turn the glasses upside-down and this can decrease the 3D effects."

Interesting development. Has anyone tried the "turn the glasses upside-down" trick?

And mods, I started a new thread instead of following the "dizzy" article below so more people will see this, as I thought it was of special interest. Was I wrong?Crazy
Cheers


Ardamírë
Doriath


Dec 3 2012, 12:24am

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I absolutely loath 3D. It only looks like a bunch of cardboard cutouts standing in front of a background to me. I've heard of another way of creating 2D glasses, but I've never gotten around to it. I'd love to have this option in case I go to the cinema with people who like the 3D.

With that said, I'm hoping the 48FPS 3D is much better than traditional. I'm actually expecting it to be. I'll definitely be giving it a try.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Chopsta123
Mithlond


Dec 3 2012, 1:12am

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"...when watching a 3D film, you can turn the glasses upside-down and this can decrease the 3D effects."

how will this remove the 3D effect other than flip the images from the left eye to the right eye? might even increase the strain on the eye...



SteveDJ
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Dec 3 2012, 5:26pm

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At least, I hope they aren't just blocking out one lens. The correct way to do this, is to put the SAME filter in for both eyes.

So if you wanted to do this yourself, just get two sets of the 3D glasses, and 'exchange' the left lens from one set, to the right lens of the other set. Of course, actually swapping isn't easy (since the lenses aren't perfectly round, but shaped for the left/right eyepiece) - you'll need some tape or glue or something. But when you are done, you'll have two sets of 2D glasses -- and interestingly, they'd each see the movie slightly differently. :)

Edit: P.S. Don't twist/rotate the lens you are exchanging - keep it the same orientation as it was before. This alone might be justification for letting the 'pros' do this... :)


(This post was edited by SteveDJ on Dec 3 2012, 5:28pm)


Kassandros
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Dec 3 2012, 5:33pm

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Films that were filmed in 2D and then converted into 3D tend to have that "cardboard cutout" effect for me, but films actually shot in 3D tend to feel more organic. I'm hoping The Hobbit will be like the latter.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Ardamírë
Doriath


Dec 3 2012, 7:07pm

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looked that way to me, and that's apparently the ultimate 3D experience.

In the past couple of years, I've read about 3D filming and converting, and it seems as though filmmakers are now going for some sort of noninvasive 3D. They compare 2D to looking through a window and 3D to looking through a window but removing the glass. You perceive more dimensions, yes, but much of the time it's that cardboard cutout effect, and other times you can't even see anything different from 2D.

It's just not something I like. If I'm going to see a 3D film, I want to be able to tell the difference from 2D. I want things to come out at me and make me feel immersed. I'm hoping that The Hobbit will finally convince me that 3D is the future of film. If not, I hope it just goes away.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Kassandros
Nargothrond


Dec 4 2012, 1:09am

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I hope you enjoy The Hobbit if ya try it in 3D, but it's quite possible that there are just some people for whom 3D doesn't "work". The brain still isn't receiving all of the normal information that it would if it were witnessing a scene live, so 3D will "trick" some people better than others, from what I've read. I have no idea if it's the future of cinema or not, but I enjoy it if done well. I think it's great that 2D options are still available for those who prefer that, however.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Ardamírë
Doriath


Dec 4 2012, 3:06am

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Looks like a scene is actually happening in front of me, I don't want anything to do with it. Thankfully 2D is still available. It allows us all to be pleased Smile

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales

 
 

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