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BeornBerserker
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Dec 3 2012, 4:02am

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http://whichwayisawesome.blogspot.com/


HiddenSpring
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Dec 3 2012, 4:10am

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The Hobbit as a movie about storytelling... that's exactly what I'm hoping for. A fairy tale wrapped in legend is how I've always thought of The Hobbit.


Lalaith7
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Dec 3 2012, 4:11am

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Well, this is fantastically positive! This reviewer even goes so far as to say that it is on par with LotR, which is wonderful to hear after so much debate in the threads below. Thank you for posting!


Danielos
Nargothrond

Dec 3 2012, 4:19am

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Strange! When did the reviewer see this? I thought the premiere screening was in 3D 48 fps?


BeornBerserker
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Dec 3 2012, 4:24am

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Soundled like multiple screenings today from all the tweets [In reply to] Can't Post

I think they had screenings in various locales today including Los Angelos. Don't know what the criteria was for the invite. The official US Premier is the the 4th in New York I believe.


Tim
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Dec 3 2012, 4:37am

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I'm glad they enjoyed it I wonder if I'll agree with them. There's lots of positive buzz so far via twitter...

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.


easterlingchief1
Ossiriand


Dec 3 2012, 4:41am

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It was a critics screening at the Director'd Guild of America headquarters here in LA [In reply to] Can't Post

Pretty standard stuff. Critics screenings are always held over there in the big brick tower they're set up in.

I'm not entirely sure what the criteria is to get into this things. I think you're allowed in so long as you're a noted/registered film critic/member of the press with clearance with the studio and the guild. But one critic was informing guild members to buy tickets for the next DGA screening (yeah, he liked it that much).


chazychris
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Dec 3 2012, 5:07am

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What a glowing review! I'm pumped -- and I was surprised to hear that a Thorin/Bolg moment sent a shiver down his spine. Good to hear that the extrapolated content is up to par.

"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own."
-Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)


chazychris
Lindon


Dec 3 2012, 5:09am

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Though . . . to put this all in perspective, the same reviewer gave Skyfall a "10"...

"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own."
-Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)


Tim
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Dec 3 2012, 5:11am

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and looking at his other reviews we may have similar tastes.

I'm also interested in how he and others are going to feel about the 48fps thingeemabob.

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.


chazychris
Lindon


Dec 3 2012, 5:17am

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yeah -- I think I had unfair expectations for Skyfall -- I wanted it to be something more than a commercial blockbuster -- so it fell short for me. Though I loved Javier and the entire Scotland sequence. I could watch the Highland/Bond estate ending over and over.

But anyway, yeah, looking through his reviews, this Chris Price fellow does seem to be pretty fair. Saying AUJ is on par with LotR -- my heart is beating faster!

"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own."
-Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)


Elutherian
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Dec 3 2012, 5:43am

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Simon Curtis ‏@simoncurtis
A friend of mine saw The Hobbit in 48fps today- said it was the most immersive, amazing movie experience of his life. #dead

The Grey Pilgrim, they once called me. Three hundred lives of men I walked this earth, and now I have no time...


BeornBerserker
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Dec 3 2012, 5:45am

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Cameron Barrett ‏@mhcameron
@ the Academy today for a special screening of The Hobbit projected in 3D at 48 fps, which is was shot in. Spectacular! I'm truly awestruck.

Eric Brown ‏@TheEricBrown
Just saw The Hobbit. It moved faster and held my attention better than any of the LOTR movies.


Jade Moser ‏@jademoser
'The Hobbit' was amazing! Visually stunning, mesmerizing, superb acting.. If you're in the guild circuit, rsvp for the next screening asap!


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BeornBerserker
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Dec 3 2012, 5:57am

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Nicholas DeNitto ‏@NicksMovies
Just saw The Hobbit and was STUNNED. See this movie in 3D at 48 FPS! It looks incredible!


Orc13
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Dec 3 2012, 6:13am

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The Masterpiece, 1 December 2012

Author: erikhovhannisyan
This is my first time writing a movie review so ill keep it simple. This movie is a true,complete masterpiece. In my opinion, it is better than the Lord of the Rings trilogy (it is based on the producers of that movie but a much better movie). This movie, if possible, DESERVES to be the #1 highest rated movie on IMDb. I've read the book and mostly the movie is very similar to the book. It's that good that it even deserves to be seen the first day the movie comes out on December 14th and be watched in theaters over and over again. thats how good the movie is. I highly recommend seeing this movie to anyone. I cannot wait until December 14th to go see it and so should you. :)


Orc13
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Dec 3 2012, 6:15am

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Nothing short of a masterpiece., 1 December 2012

Author: chapy004 from United States
Best of the best. Pete has crafted a masterpiece. I should say at this point, I am a new fan of LOTR movies after seeing this movie. My friends and family always told me I should watch the previous 3 films and now i cant wait to sit down with a bowl of popcorn and witness the magnificent scale and perfect execution that The Hobbit: an Unexpected Journey brought to all 5 senses of mine. Maybe I could count The Hobbit in as a SIXTH sense. It was just THAT good.

First of all, the 48fps was just beautifully sharp and clean to the eyes. It was a touch of technological wizardry by Jackson, and it worked perfectly, allowing the viewer to feel as he/she were a spying picture frame on Bilbo's fireplace, or a pine tree looking over a cliff and down at Rivendell. It seems far fetched, but lets just say I forgot I was watching a movie, and you can experience for yourself, what I mean.

The execution was fabulous as well; the pacing, the shot angles, the acting, the script, and so much more. The score by Howard Shore was so clever and is sure to put a smile on your face. The WHOLE movie will put a smile on your face. The Hobbit will remind you that you can do great things, no matter how small.


Maiarmike
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Dec 3 2012, 6:17am

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I wouldn't put much stock into reviews by users on IMDB... [In reply to] Can't Post

...most of them are just eager fans who haven't seen the movie yet.

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien


DanielLB
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Dec 3 2012, 7:57am

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Does this person really mean the film is better than the entire trilogy? [In reply to] Can't Post

Or the best of 4?

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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Dec 3 2012, 8:00am

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I'm getting suspicious by the lack of negative reviews ;-) [In reply to] Can't Post

Is HFR really a medium for mind control?! Shocked

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utku
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Dec 3 2012, 10:33am

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This from the board, a user says that he has seen the movie and says the following regarding the comparison with the previous trilogy:

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Saw a screening of the hobbit tonight in hollywood. It was amazing! The best CGI i probably have ever seen. If you are a die hard fan of the LOTR films then you will not be let down. A fun ride, lots of action and story, beautiful cinematography and music.

And to answer how I would compare it to the others, well its the same director, landscape, a lot of the same actors so it really just continues on where it leftoff-although it's set before LOTR. But they are made ten years later so obviously the technology has improved and it shows.
At these screenings everyone stays for the credits out of respect since we all work in the industry and I swear the CGI and effects credits were ten minutes alone!

The friend I took is a bigger fan than me and he said he liked them just as much or more than the originals."





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utku
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Dec 3 2012, 11:38am

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https://twitter.com/BrianDuffield

He has tweeted A LOT about the movie, here's some:

One about the end scene, says it's been spoiled months ago. So we don't need to pronounce it now, but we all know it. :)

Also another interesting bit:
"Also, I see people complaining about scrotum chin goblin king. Why?" and then later: "I can see the design conversations at Weta happening until Jackson had to say he wanted a giant ballsack on its throat."

Not really a spoiler since we have seen the design but honestly it didn't trouble me. Maybe in action it looks different, I don't know. Crazy

"No character in 2012 has stolen my heart the way GOBLIN ON A ZIPLINE has. I want to know more about him. His character. Where is he from? Where's that zipline take him? What happens when he gets there?" And I have no idea what he's talking about.

"The only real PG-13 moment for me was the dwarf head. That took me by surprise big time. Gollum's scary too." Must be the prologue.

"Rivendell scene worth it almost exclusively for an amazing Christopher Lee verbal takedown of Radagast. And just Lee in general. "

"After 30 seconds screen time of THE HOBBIT, I'd totally pay $15 to see alien Lee Pace party with a raccoon with guns." So not 3 seconds after all. Smile

Some negative bits: "I think Jackson's desire to please the fans hurts this movie to some degree. So much of HOBBIT is nice (Ian Holm, Elijah Wood, etc) but it's just for fans and nothing else. It's a fun time. It's not LOTR. The thing that hurts Hobbit the most is LOTR. In every way. It's not super egregious, and it's nice too see Lee back, but more EE type scenes. Also lots of stuff in the trailer (but clearly film 1) isn't in the movie. Think the movie really needs a few more Freeman in Shire moments."


And some Q&A:

-What do we see of Azog?
-A hell of a lot.
-Good to hear! Was expecting some quick cameo. Does he look anything like Bolg?
-You are in for a surprise then.

-how much of the movie does the white council plotline take up and how much screen time does Rhadagast get?
-5 minutes and 10.

-Is the scene with Bilbo buying fish in? I heard it was cut.
-Nope. A lot of the Gandalf stuff is film 2.

-Were there any EPIC moments in the movie?
-Thorin gets a ton of big hero moments. Jackson shoots him like a God.

-Do we get to see any daily Erebor life or does it jump right to the action?
-Very briefly.

Regarding blockbusters of the year: Hobbit > Skyfall > Avengers/TDKR but still, LotR > Hobbit

Ah, sweet. How was the Battle of Azanulbizar?
great. The reason it's pg13.
Ooooh! Any gory moments?
thrown dwarf heads
Azog decapitating on of the leader dwarves?
yep
Do we glimpse The Balrog at Azanulbizar? He is, after all, the real reason the dwarves didn't return to Moria
nope


Soooo....how was the radagast/dol guldur storyline?
brief but I dug him. He gets stoned.

Does the necromancer make an appearance?
sorta. Not really but not nor either.

if you had to say your favorite scene of the movie what would it be?
Riddles.



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DanielLB
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Dec 3 2012, 11:47am

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jtarkey
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Dec 3 2012, 12:08pm

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SPOILER!!!!!!!



That Radagast is a stoner. That probably sounds ridiculous, but it was definitely always implied in LOTR. Plus, what can I say, I like the Old Toby a whole lot Wink

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Dec 3 2012, 3:09pm

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A friend of mine works in a local cinema and although it is a very small one it's one of the few smaller cinemas in Germany that is able to show HFR 3D 48 fps. Today they got to see some clips from "The Hobbit" to have a first look on the new technology and he told me that he was blown away by it. Well... he just saw about 5 minutes of the film but... it's an opinion.

Just a couple of days and we all will know it!

"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."


utku
Ossiriand


Dec 3 2012, 4:42pm

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Here's a podcast review of the movie:

http://greggtonyandjim.blogspot.com/2012/12/3-dec-2012.html

Key points:

-One of the guys has not seen LotR so basically gives then opinion of the casual viewer.
-They don't remember the name for HFR so casual in that regard as well.
-They were blown away by the experience, 48 is too good that it almost looks fake (in a good way).
-HFR is a very different experience as in they don't feel like watching a movie with the most realistic CG, but watching reality with fake-ish effects.
-They repeatedly say they were blown away by it and everyone should go and see it in that format but they are sure normal 3D would look just as fascinating.
-One of them says it is "one of the most beautifully shot movies ever"
-3D is spectacular, there is only a few "coming-at-you" gimmicks and it's mostly birds and butterflies so that's a plus.
-3D, in this case, does not make it like coming into the theatre but taking audience to the world (if you know what I mean),
-At one point, one of the guys thought someone was standing up in theatre while it was just a camera movement in the movie, saying it was that real.
-Martin Freeman is a great choice for the role and they said he played his role like a normal, everyday person instead of a character from this fantasy world.
-They generally liked all the characters and how they looked.
-Story wise, it's much funnier and lighter compared to LotR but anyone who's a fan of LotR would still love this.
-They liked goblins very much, especailly Goblin King (they say orcs, obviously confused)
-Trollshaw scene is their favourite but they don't want to talk about the movie itself because of embargo.
-Also there's nothing much to say about the movie, they say it looks great and recommend people to see it.
-Most of the people in their screening seemed to like it, they have seen a couple of fans applauded, they were amazed.
-If I understood right, there was a group of people at the end who were nitpicking points from the movie but speaker thought even they seemed to like it.


Overall a very positive review, and it's fun to listen. Smile


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