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frodo284
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Dec 1 2012, 5:29am
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I have been fortunate enough to see this film ahead of time. Not with the new HFR but from what I have seen I can give you a detailed review without giving away spoilers!
Being a die hard fan of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit book(s), I like many others, have been eager for the past 10 years to see this production spring to life. I was a huge fan of Peter Jackson's adaptation of 'The Lord of the Rings' (all 3 of them), and I was curious to see how he would transform a children based, 300 page book into an epic trilogy. I admit I had my doubts and questions but what we get is a film beyond our simple book and in my opinion, makes it an even better story!
Jackson has managed to plunge us back into Middle-Earth with a whole new story which feels much more fast-paced than 2001's 'Fellowship of the Ring'. We have a handful of characters returning, some not included in the book, which some may feel is forced and unnecessary. I felt the same at first, but Jackson finds the correct times to add these characters in order to blend nicely with 'The Lord of the Rings'. This helps us a movie viewers, tie the stories together and feel a sense of "danger" building in Middle-Earth.
My doubts about breaking the story into 3 films were relieved. Jackson has successfully found a way to use the 2 hours and 50 minutes wisely, without too much drag. He gives us proper and useful time with all 13 of our dwarves (who are brilliantly acted), Ian Mckellan's Gandalf who is reprised with much more screen time than originally used and of whom we get more respect for as an elderly wizard. Serkis' Gollum hits the nail on the head in the 'Riddles in the Dark' scene. HIs performance always stunned me in the original trilogy, but he brought an even more chilling tone to the character which ties in nicely with the subplot surrounding these books/movies. We also have a handful of characters from the original films who tie in nicely with the overall story as I mentioned earlier. This alone makes our first film fill up with time, whereas the book is read/narrrated in such a manner that we dont' really know each character greatly, except for Bilbo. Jacksons decision to involve us more emotionally with our heroes will make the final outcome more worthwhile and epic at the end of this saga I feel.
Naturally, in time, technology advances so the visuals have improved drastically in comparison to the original trilogy. I'll be curious to see it again in IMAX HFR to get a full perspective of the intended experience.
Without spoiling, I will say for those who have read the book are in for a wonderful treat visual, story, humor, and action wise. The film also ends on a great note/cliff hanger to leave us ready for more adventure next Christmas!
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Istaris'staffs
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Dec 1 2012, 5:33am
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But you didn't have to leave out spoilers. 
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BiggieSmaug
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Dec 1 2012, 5:34am
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But you should gives us some spoilers so in a few weeks we make sure you're telling the truth ;)
PM me some Necromancer/Bolg/Sauron details
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frodo284
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Dec 1 2012, 5:35am
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Me if you really want those..I don't wanna upset anyone :)
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BiggieSmaug
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Dec 1 2012, 5:35am
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Necromancer/Azog/more details would be incredible.
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Eye's on Guard
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Dec 1 2012, 5:37am
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I think the most exciting part of this review for those on the forum is the description of Gollum. "Chilling" is not exactly the reaction most had to him based on the early promotional footage.
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Dec 1 2012, 5:37am
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I am especially glad to hear that the pacing was good; that's been one of the questions about the move from 2 films to 3. And it's also great that we're going to get to know each of the dwarves as individuals, since as you said, some of them get little to no characterization in the book. I'm also glad you felt that Gollum has a sense of menace about him in Riddles in the Dark - that's such an iconic scene and I remember vividly how creepy it was reading it for the first time.
Only two weeks to go....
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marillaraina
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Dec 1 2012, 5:40am
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Just put warn that you are giving spoilers,
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Me if you really want those..I don't wanna upset anyone :)
If someone gets annoyed AFTER you've given the warning, that's their own fault for reading.
Personally I want all the spoilers possible. I love knowing everything ahead of time, then I can just relax and watch the movie. :) I don't like surprises.
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BiggieSmaug
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Dec 1 2012, 5:41am
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For me, these are movies I will watch til the day I day, and experience with my kids, and their kids. The first experience isn't that important.
I need to know where my Nazgul at! PM me frodo dude.
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Mooseboy018
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Dec 1 2012, 5:43am
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Gollum's "times up" in one of the new tv spots definitely shows some of that chilling aspect of his personality much better than the other trailers.
I'm also glad to hear that we'll be getting more of that.
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frodo284
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Dec 1 2012, 5:43am
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Later tonight or tomorrow, I'm currently not at my computer. We don't get each dwarf in GREAT detail or anything BUT we def get to see emotion, humor, fighting, and general characteristics with them.
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BiggieSmaug
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Dec 1 2012, 5:45am
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But real quick just tell us some about Sauron's involvement don't leave us hanging on this! I've been lurking this forum for 4 years on/off looking for that info!
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Joe20
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Dec 1 2012, 5:46am
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so much! Glad you enjoyed it. Lucky
I sent you a message asking about a few points. Any info would be greatly appreciated. 
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frodo284
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Dec 1 2012, 5:54am
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Saurons involvement is none. Sauruman in the meeting of Gandalf and Elrond. He speaks of a rising evil in middle earth (hinting at the lord of the rings). They are discussing what Gandalf and Radagast had speakings of, the finding of a morgul blade I believe. More reference to the witch king.
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musterd
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Dec 1 2012, 5:58am
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Could I ask how was Martin Freeman as Bilbo?
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frodo284
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Dec 1 2012, 6:08am
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Puts Elijah Woods Fro do to shame. I meant to put that in my review.. thanks for pointing that out. He is so funny, charming, and really comes off as a homely man out of his element but brave enough to keep going!
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Elessar
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Dec 1 2012, 6:18am
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Glad it's sounding as good as I had hoped.
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Flyyoufools
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Dec 1 2012, 6:34am
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That's what I hoped for...
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DarkJackal
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Dec 1 2012, 6:37am
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I was reading it with one eye closed since I personally want to avoid a spoiler packed review for just a bit longer. But this confirms that it is a good film, while letting us find out for ourselves why it is good.
The Hobbit Photo Gallery
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Flyyoufools
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Dec 1 2012, 6:40am
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You can give us more tonight ;-)
Nazgul, Smaug.......
Something else i'd like to know; are there (too) many jokes? And what's the best looking scene (scenery)?
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 1 2012, 7:59am
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Two pressing questions, that require no specific spoilers.
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First, have they gone overboard with the violence? I know lots of people who want and intend to take their school aged, pre-teen children to these movies for the litany of obvious reasons, but who may feel less comfortable doing so if the violence depicted is explicit to the point that the film seems just a step or two shy of deserving an R rating instead of a PG-13.
Second, when you say the ending is a great note and a cliffhanger. . . sounds a little oxymoronic to me. lol. Is it a jarring cliffhanger that leaves you with the unpleasant feeling that you have had a door slammed in your face, or is it a satisfying, reasonable gentle slope of an ending that makes you fully aware that there is more great story ahead, but doesn't leave you feeling shortchanged as though someone had knocked your fork out of your hand just as you were preparing to take a bite?
I have been fortunate enough to see this film ahead of time. Not with the new HFR but from what I have seen I can give you a detailed review without giving away spoilers!
Being a die hard fan of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit book(s), I like many others, have been eager for the past 10 years to see this production spring to life. I was a huge fan of Peter Jackson's adaptation of 'The Lord of the Rings' (all 3 of them), and I was curious to see how he would transform a children based, 300 page book into an epic trilogy. I admit I had my doubts and questions but what we get is a film beyond our simple book and in my opinion, makes it an even better story!
Jackson has managed to plunge us back into Middle-Earth with a whole new story which feels much more fast-paced than 2001's 'Fellowship of the Ring'. We have a handful of characters returning, some not included in the book, which some may feel is forced and unnecessary. I felt the same at first, but Jackson finds the correct times to add these characters in order to blend nicely with 'The Lord of the Rings'. This helps us a movie viewers, tie the stories together and feel a sense of "danger" building in Middle-Earth.
My doubts about breaking the story into 3 films were relieved. Jackson has successfully found a way to use the 2 hours and 50 minutes wisely, without too much drag. He gives us proper and useful time with all 13 of our dwarves (who are brilliantly acted), Ian Mckellan's Gandalf who is reprised with much more screen time than originally used and of whom we get more respect for as an elderly wizard. Serkis' Gollum hits the nail on the head in the 'Riddles in the Dark' scene. HIs performance always stunned me in the original trilogy, but he brought an even more chilling tone to the character which ties in nicely with the subplot surrounding these books/movies. We also have a handful of characters from the original films who tie in nicely with the overall story as I mentioned earlier. This alone makes our first film fill up with time, whereas the book is read/narrrated in such a manner that we dont' really know each character greatly, except for Bilbo. Jacksons decision to involve us more emotionally with our heroes will make the final outcome more worthwhile and epic at the end of this saga I feel.
Naturally, in time, technology advances so the visuals have improved drastically in comparison to the original trilogy. I'll be curious to see it again in IMAX HFR to get a full perspective of the intended experience.
Without spoiling, I will say for those who have read the book are in for a wonderful treat visual, story, humor, and action wise. The film also ends on a great note/cliff hanger to leave us ready for more adventure next Christmas!
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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lidlessEye
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Dec 1 2012, 8:21am
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is the scene in, where gandalf meets "zombie-thrain" in the dungeons of dol guldur and recieves the map/key of erebor?
where are the crypts of the nazgul? angmar?
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Cave Troll
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Dec 1 2012, 8:43am
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But, no offence, I'd love to hear this sort of review from someone who isn't already a fan.
A couple of things you've highlighted I really like the sound of:
"feel a sense of "danger" building in Middle-Earth" (This was always going to be crucial imo.)
"found a way to use the 2 hours and 50 minutes wisely, without too much drag" (some early reviews have hinted that the first half drags a tad. Glad you think doesn't!)
"He gives us proper and useful time with all 13 of our dwarves (who are brilliantly acted)" (Super. This was always going to make or break the first film.)
"Serkis' Gollum hits the nail on the head in the 'Riddles in the Dark' scene. HIs performance always stunned me in the original trilogy, but he brought an even more chilling tone to the character which ties in nicely with the subplot surrounding these books/movies." (So critical...)
Thanks for the post!
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Bombadil
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Dec 1 2012, 8:50am
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Bomby had a Feeling Leakssseies like thizzz...were Coming..
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BOMBY Better Boycott..
It will Be tough
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Namarié
Until after...the Midnight showing...
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Gusev8
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Dec 1 2012, 9:07am
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Can you please tell me (and others) this one thing: Is Riddles in the Dark scary enough? //
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