|
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
BilboBagshot187
Ossiriand
Nov 28 2012, 7:32pm
Post #1 of 43
(3756 views)
Shortcut
|
|
New York Daily news brief review
|
Can't Post
|
|
Below is a very brief but positive review from New york daily news
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/new-hobbit-film-eye-popping-article-1.1209539?localLinksEnabled=false
I thought there was an embargo until dec 3, but it appears nobody told Daily news.
'Everywhere I lie theres a dirty great root sticking into my back!'
|
|
|
imin
Doriath
Nov 28 2012, 7:36pm
Post #2 of 43
(2118 views)
Shortcut
|
|
wow an incredibly positive review i would say
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
It is making me more and more excited. Also there has been not one bad word so far about HFR which is making me think watching it in 48fps is a good idea - also the cinema is real close by, lol.
The reviewer sounded like they loved it, fantastic stuff!
|
|
|
Aragalen the Green
Mithlond
Nov 28 2012, 7:46pm
Post #4 of 43
(2069 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Mostly positive, but I wince...
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
at Radagast the Brown's description. I was so hoping for a little dignity in his role as a Wizard. Perhaps the next 2 movies will bring out more Wizard and less--well, you know--buffoonery.
Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.
"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."
|
|
|
Beeromir
Lindon
Nov 28 2012, 7:47pm
Post #5 of 43
(2039 views)
Shortcut
|
...bumbling wizard Radagast the Brown (Sylvester McCoy), whose buffoonery at times descends into Jar Jar Binks territory. ...
Yeesh, that's not a place I hope his character goes. Jar Jar = Worst comedy relief character ever.
|
|
|
Flame of Udun
Ossiriand
Nov 28 2012, 7:48pm
Post #7 of 43
(1914 views)
Shortcut
|
We will not get a fully accurate sense of what the people thought of the HFR until after the embargo, but I must agree that these little tibits are very encouraging 
"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Balrog! A Balrog is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand. What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.''
|
|
|
Aragorn the Elfstone
Dor-Lomin
Nov 28 2012, 7:49pm
Post #8 of 43
(1857 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Isn't the NY Daily News a tabloid?//
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
|
|
|
imin
Doriath
Nov 28 2012, 7:52pm
Post #9 of 43
(1882 views)
Shortcut
|
|
yeah apart from that bit, lol.
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
was trying to be super positive 
|
|
|
Elessar
Doriath
Nov 28 2012, 7:56pm
Post #10 of 43
(1880 views)
Shortcut
|
Most likely either a bad comparison. I can't believe Jackson would turn a character into jar jar of Middle-earth. I think someone may have been reaching with that comment.
|
|
|
Ardamírë
Doriath
Nov 28 2012, 7:57pm
Post #11 of 43
(1902 views)
Shortcut
|
|
If this is how Radagast is handled
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
In all three films, I'm sure I'll be rooting for his demise.
"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales
|
|
|
Aragalen the Green
Mithlond
Nov 28 2012, 8:01pm
Post #12 of 43
(1741 views)
Shortcut
|
Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.
"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."
|
|
|
adnan
Ossiriand
Nov 28 2012, 8:01pm
Post #13 of 43
(1809 views)
Shortcut
|
I will be shocked to see if that opinion is even 50% accurate. Sure, Radagast doesn't come across as some suave wizard, he will have this eccentric feel to him. But I am sure it wont be anything compared to the silliness of Jar Jar Stinks!
Rivendell
|
|
|
Oscarilbo
Menegroth
Nov 28 2012, 8:06pm
Post #14 of 43
(1769 views)
Shortcut
|
There will be an important difference between Jar Jar and Radagast. Jar Jar was made for comic relief of a whole movie, and that is why it was made for.
Radagast the Brown was given a kind of personality based on the kind of life he's been living all his years; solitary but with animals, after all it's all he needs, and it will be just a little part of the whole story.
So no, its not about if he reach jar jar territory or not (which I find very unlikely by the way) but if there is a good reason for it.
"The World is Changed, I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air"
|
|
|
Silverlode
Forum Admin
/ Moderator
Nov 28 2012, 8:33pm
Post #16 of 43
(1645 views)
Shortcut
|
|
More likely Radagast is veering into Tom Bombadil territory.
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
But I doubt this reporter has that comparison in his repertoire. I was always glad that Tom didn't make an appearance in the films because it's very hard to present that type of character on screen - and let's face it, not everyone likes him in the books either! We may be getting a taste of what it would have been like.
Silverlode
|
|
|
ShireHorse
Nargothrond
Nov 28 2012, 8:33pm
Post #17 of 43
(1729 views)
Shortcut
|
written by someone who has seen the film or has it been cobbled together by someone who has watched the trailers and seen the tweets?
Example: There is absolutely no comment about whether or not MF is a good Bilbo and the only comment about RA is an obvious one ("square-jawed"). The remarks about 48fps have been tweeted and are known to us already. The opinion about Radagast could be based solely on the trailers or McCoy's cringeworthy performance on the Red Carpet.
BUT, if all reviews after Dec 3rd are as positive, I shall be very happy.
|
|
|
Arthael
Menegroth
Nov 28 2012, 8:38pm
Post #18 of 43
(1582 views)
Shortcut
|
|
I hope they're overstating matters
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
I'm *interested* in how Radagast is handled. Can't say I'm "excited", because the bird poop is just...unnecessary...to me. I can't think of a single good reason for it. And I fear that it's how they'll treat the whole character.
On a positive note, I've really liked his performance in all 10 seconds we've seen of him in the trailers. And I'm starting to be ok with the bunny sled. So hopefully he won't be *too* wacky and imbecilic.
Everything else in the review is great and has me stoked!
"There are no safe paths in this part of the world. Remember you are over the Edge of the Wild, and in for all sorts of fun wherever you go."
|
|
|
Merowen
Lindon
Nov 28 2012, 8:39pm
Post #19 of 43
(1565 views)
Shortcut
|
not sure how I feel about it.
Never ask an Elf for advice, for he will say both 'Yes' and 'No'.
|
|
|
Aragalen the Green
Mithlond
Nov 28 2012, 8:45pm
Post #20 of 43
(1560 views)
Shortcut
|
|
It's in the paper, so it must be true.
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.
"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."
|
|
|
Kassandros
Nargothrond
Nov 28 2012, 8:46pm
Post #21 of 43
(1552 views)
Shortcut
|
To visually show that he values taking care of animals over taking care of his own appearance. I think it's a great way to show he's very animal-focused rather than people-focused.
On the other hand, it risks disgusting a number of viewers. As someone who is getting into birding, I am pretty accustomed to seeing a fair amount of bird pee. Other views might not feel the same way.
all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...
|
|
|
easterlingchief1
Ossiriand
Nov 28 2012, 8:57pm
Post #22 of 43
(1596 views)
Shortcut
|
|
After skimming through the article...
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
...I'v got to say, this reads like a fake.
For one thing, the NY Daily NEws is a tabloid. In fact, it's the oldest successful tabloid in the US (est. 1919). Not to sound like a snob here, but this is definitely not a publication whose validity you can just accept without the metaphorical grain of salt.
Secondly, everything is described in more or less vague terms. Nothing is mentioned about the performances, the plot description read like the reporter wasn't paying attention/wasn't at the screening, and the few critiques it does make (i.e how your eyes get used to the HFR, how this story is lighter than LOTR) read like they were pulled from comments made by PJ and Co over the last year.
And the only other criticism it makes robs the journalist of validity. The "Radagast = Jar-JAr" comments seem like over exaggeration, which is expected. But saying the greater clarity of the digital projection makes the Great Goblin's face look icky is pretty tawdry. It definitely reads like a comment a tacky tabloid article would include, not a serious, sincere review/critique of the film.
Lastly, they are breaking the studio embargo on a review. I'm not saying that's wrong, but it seems suspicious that a journalist for a nationally-syndicated paper, let alone the editors f that paper, would be willing to publish a piece that would get them in trouble with the studio (i.e. the reporter/paper can actually get banned from future WB's press screenings).
So, sorry, but I don't think this is a legit review. It definitely reads like something the NY Daily NEws put out to cash in on the hype that's going to be going into full gear over the next 2 weeks.
|
|
|
Carne
Dor-Lomin
Nov 28 2012, 8:58pm
Post #23 of 43
(1576 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Weta linked to their "review" on Twitter
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
So I don't think they've broken the embargo. They don't give anything away
(This post was edited by Carne on Nov 28 2012, 8:59pm)
|
|
|
Ardamírë
Doriath
Nov 28 2012, 9:09pm
Post #25 of 43
(1423 views)
Shortcut
|
I think he does just what he's intended to. And honestly, he's really not that bad. I think people just want something to complain about.
However (and this is a big however), I don't want a Jar Jar-like character in Middle-earth, and especially not as Radagast, who even if he's fallen too much in love with nature, was at one point a wise and esteemed Maia sent to ME to help in the resistance against Sauron. To turn him into a bumbling hobo used for comedic relief would be a serious blunder.
And yes, I'd rather have the talking purse (who needs a name, by the way) than Jaradagast Binks!
"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales
|
|
|
|
|
1
