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Lusitano
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Nov 17 2012, 6:56pm
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New Thorin Pic
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http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-kili.png
Many thanks to our dwarf Spy, Dark Jackal 
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Lusitano
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Nov 17 2012, 7:35pm
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I already see the perfumme commercial with RA...
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Ataahua
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Nov 17 2012, 8:45pm
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Look at the detail on the leather.
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Absolutely gorgeous outfit.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 17 2012, 8:47pm
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Honestly, I think Ann Maskrey has outdone her predecessor here.
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ShireHorse
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Nov 17 2012, 9:02pm
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if you don't mind, Lusitano:
http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-kili.png
Great pic! Thanks a lot, Lusitano and DJ. In a brief interview in Us Magazine a couple of days ago, RA said that he had a prosthetic forehead and nose which took more than two and a half hours in make-up and I think that's what gives him the dwarven look - but it's not as cartoonish as some of the others so that I can believe in him.
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starlesswinter
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Nov 17 2012, 9:08pm
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It's mostly to do with fabric choice, I think. I was never a fan of all the velvet Ngila Dickson used. Even with all the great detail in the LOTR costumes, some of them looked like Halloween costumes.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 17 2012, 9:09pm
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I think the velvet had a lot to do with it
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Made a number of the costumes look rather cheap, IMO.
Maskrey has an excellent eye for fabrics, I think.
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Eleniel
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Nov 17 2012, 9:11pm
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Here's another picture of RA as Thorin I haven't seen before...
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Was searching for a closer shot of his belt which I saw recently (but can't remember where!) - I believe it has a chunk of quartz in it - but nyway, stumbled across this shot in which Thorin looks older and more world-weary:
http://gratianads90.files.wordpress.com/...dec2111ranetcrop.jpg
"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
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starlesswinter
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Nov 17 2012, 9:15pm
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"Cheap" is the right word, unfortunately. I don't mean to dismiss Dickson's efforts; some of her work was great and it certainly wasn't cheap to make all those costumes. But just as much of it didn't look the greatest on camera. It actually makes Ann Maskrey's work all the more impressive that she has to take the high definition factor into consideration.
Now, here's hoping for a decent documentary on Maskrey's work for the DVD!
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Lusitano
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Nov 17 2012, 9:17pm
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thanks for that!
Really, i did not know that it took that long for his look...
No, ots more of a noble, warrior, look.. Nori is more of a dwarf of the streets, with a shady past and connections, and suspicious, bully looking hairdoo
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ShireHorse
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Nov 17 2012, 9:20pm
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I think that's an early shot, Eleniel,
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whilst they were still messing around with the Thorin "look". Since then, they have made his moustache shorter since RA decided to grow his own and have made his hair darker and his nose less hooked.
The costume looks like the one from the backstage shot where he has the oakenshield on his arm and it was assumed he was shooting an Azanulbizar scene. If so, he should be looking younger, not older.
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Elenorflower
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Nov 17 2012, 9:26pm
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your havin a laugh! Those velvet costumes were perfection. NO WAY did they look cheap. Really! 
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Ataahua
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Nov 17 2012, 9:31pm
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to someone other than Lusitano. :D
What was it that you particularly liked about Ngila's costumes, Ef? Personally, I loved the weight of them - how they would hang off the women's shoulders and drape beautifully.
Having said that, my favourite costumes from LOTR were Boromir's and Gimli's - the details told their own stories of the men who wore them.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Lusitano
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Nov 17 2012, 9:42pm
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at the wrong tree elenor 
On cheapness...not at all. Love the costumes in Lotr. In every way.
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DanielLB
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Nov 17 2012, 9:47pm
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Looks a lot older (more worn out) than what we've seen before.
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They haven't filmed his death scene yet, so I wonder if this is very late on in the story? Perhaps in the lead up to the battle?
I can't imagine it's pre-Quest, but I could be wrong.
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ShireHorse
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Nov 17 2012, 10:04pm
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I think they've changed their minds so much
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about how Thorin should look - they've said that his image has been the most difficult to get right - that we can't tell much from these shots we saw in the early vlogs because I don't see them using them in the film any more. I don't think the look in that second pic is the one we shall finish up with. The look in Lusitano's picture seems to be the favoured one.
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Elenorflower
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Nov 17 2012, 10:06pm
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blast you will the Nucleargaladriel!  my apologies.
But yeah Ngila is beyond reproach IMO, she nailed it. The womens costumes were Pre-Raphaelite medieval inspired dream gowns, they looked straight out of a Waterhouse painting, and the fabrics were rich and sumptuous. The mens costumes were detailed marvelously too. I love the tiny details of Striders Ranger costume, the bandages on his fingers and the weather stained surcoat. I also found Elronds kimono style gowns an interesting idea. I am a bit of a costume nerd, so anyone thinking the LOTR velvets looked cheap is just a bit mind boggling to me, cos I know good stuff when I see it and Halloween it was not.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 17 2012, 10:08pm
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I really like the look of his nose there, and the seemingly grayer hair. Looks a bit more dwarvish than the final design.
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Lusitano
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Nov 17 2012, 10:09pm
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that scene when galadriel goes bazooka on frodo is scary and for a moement i thought she was risen again!
Agreed, of all the faults lotr had, costume department, is not one of them.
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Elenorflower
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Nov 17 2012, 10:11pm
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my mistake, my apologies to you.
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Eleniel
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Nov 17 2012, 10:11pm
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Yes, and this has had a knock on effect on Kili in particular...
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Making RA's Thorin look younger has meant that Aiden Turner has had to look almost adolescent to be believable as Thorin's nephew! that's probably the main reason why he couldn't keep his own fuller beard and hair...
Still doesn't explain why he couldn't have a few braids in his hair, though! 
"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort
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Lusitano
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Nov 17 2012, 10:13pm
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no trouble dear! I enjoy a bit of excitement 
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 17 2012, 10:14pm
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I think I touched a nerve! 
I didn't say they all looked cheap. But some of the velvety ones really did look like some of the faux-Pre-Raphaelite stuff you used to see at Ren Fairs and some hippy communes in the 1970s.
But that's just one man's opinion!
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