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teargift
Lindon
Nov 7 2012, 12:30pm
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The Adventure Begins - A new download?
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Fandango.com has an offering for another Howard Shore music track with an advance Hobbit ticket purchase - The Adventure Begins. This doubles my excitement for getting tickets today (hopefully), if this is, in fact, a new treat.
"I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil."
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macfalk
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 12:43pm
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I was a little underwhelmed by "Radagast the Brown", in fact, but it suited the character. However, I got a sense of a mixture of Sherlock Holmes and "Flies and Spiders" which felt kind of strange. But who knows, maybe it will grow on me and I'll like it when I see it in the film.
I have a feeling that I will love just about everything else on the AUJ track list though. Shore almost never dissapoints me.
The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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TheRealBeren
Ossiriand
Nov 7 2012, 1:39pm
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Meanwhile, here's track 2 "Old Friends", the extended version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjYbmsB0Yk&feature=youtu.be
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Nine Finger Frodo
Lindon
Nov 7 2012, 4:24pm
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This track the Adventure Begins
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can someone upload it to youtube?
Stairs of Cirith Ungol
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Elenorflower
Mithlond
Nov 7 2012, 4:43pm
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underwhelmed by Radagast too. I have heard Old Friends and I like it a lot, but I havent heard Adventure Begins, does anyone have a clickable link?
thanks
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Eleniel
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Nov 7 2012, 4:44pm
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Great to hear some familiar themes and motifs creeping into the new score, and being given a new twist - just what I'd hope for... 
"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort
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teargift
Lindon
Nov 7 2012, 4:45pm
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There is no reveal of the Talking Purse theme. 
"I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil."
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waaimasjien
Nevrast
Nov 7 2012, 5:00pm
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yes, i'd be nice if this leaked between now and 5 minutes :) //
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 5:15pm
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After the inventiveness and color of "Radagast the Brown"
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This rehash is a little underwhelming. Always thought the Shire theme was the most pedestrian of the score.
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ecliptica
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Nov 7 2012, 6:31pm
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Has someone uploaded the track yet?
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painjoiker
Hithlum
Nov 7 2012, 6:40pm
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Hopefully they will keep it to themselves!
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I don't want any more songs (except the one sung by Neil Finn)
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starlesswinter
Menegroth
Nov 7 2012, 7:48pm
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Well, I think a rehash is absolutely necessary as a method of re-introduction. Since the Shire is essentially no different than it appears in FOTR, it makes sense to hear a very similar version of the Shire theme. However, I do disagree that this theme is "pedestrian." It's only pedestrian in that it's diatonic with a very common chord progression. It's simple, yes, but that's fitting to the simple, color-inside-the-lines life of the hobbits. The Shire doesn't need some innovative tune with eight chromatic notes. It's also extremely fitting in the context of the story because it's something to which the composer can refer back in times of contemplation or longing - a reminder of home. It doesn't hurt that it's malleable as a melodic device (there are seven different variations or "settings" throughout the three films), very memorable, and now a famous movie theme either. ;)
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 9:03pm
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I mean flat. The hobbits are a rather conservative people, who are tied to the land, and their theme music should be rich and rolling, like the hills they live under. Shore's theme, to me, sounds too "faux-country," as if it is a mockery of a simple country life, composed by someone who doesn't understand their insular culture. Something more culturally rich is what I was looking for.
I think he pulls that off with the new Radagast piece, though. Glad to see he has done some evolving.
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WhiskFishercat
Nevrast
Nov 7 2012, 9:55pm
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Haven't recieved the code yet in my inbox. The details on the website said they would mail the code within 24 hours.
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macfalk
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 10:26pm
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I very much disagree with the notion that
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Shore's Shire score is a "mockery of simple country life". If anything, it's the opposite, and I think the majority thinks so too.
The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 10:43pm
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It's like an airbrushed version of an English country tune
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Done for a Hallmark special. It has a sugary cheeriness, which makes it seem as if hobbits are burstingly happy all the time, which is a shallow characterization. Very Ren Fair.
IMO.
And why does it matter, in this case, whether or not the majority disagrees? I'm simply offering my personal assessment.
In any event, the brief bits we have heard thus far from Shore seem to be improvements.
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macfalk
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 10:50pm
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It doesn't matter, of course...
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I was just pointing out that the vast majority adores Howard Shore's LOTR music, just like the vast majority consider The Godfather, The Shawshank Redemption and Casablanca to be great movies. I wasn't trying to minimize your opinion, as it all just is - opinions, and it doesn't make it less valid that you don't agree with the masses, I was just highlighting the fact that many people love Shore's Shire score
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MTRougeau
Nevrast
Nov 7 2012, 10:57pm
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I think it captures/embodies simple country life perfectly. Shore nailed it. I can easily imagine an overly cheesy, terribly scored Shire theme, and since I first heard it 11 years ago, I thought he avoided that trap masterfully.
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starlesswinter
Menegroth
Nov 7 2012, 11:11pm
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That's reductive of the theme's development
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You're of course talking exclusively about the "rural setting" of the theme, which IS meant to be, in the words of Doug Adams' book on the music, a "sprightly, Celtic-influenced peasant melody - the simply joy of Hobbiton in musical form." In the context of the scenes this particular version of the theme accompanies, that description is entirely appropriate. I'm not sure what else you were hoping was conveyed with the music. But even so, there are plenty of other variations of the melody to deepen its meaning - sweet versions on flute, sad versions on strings or clarinet, an emotional variation at the very end of FOTR, even a fanfare variation in Cirith Ungol. That's a wide range of emotion there, and the theme is orchestrated differently several times.
That doesn't mean you have to enjoy the jolly Celtic influences,but there's a reason for it.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Nov 7 2012, 11:27pm
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I do catch a hint of the Celtic
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Though I don't think Celtic is at all appropriate for the Shire, which is essentially an Edwardian/Victorian place...
In any event, it is the very least of my complaints.
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starlesswinter
Menegroth
Nov 8 2012, 12:23am
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Well that's a fair point! But I guess instrumental inspiration has to come from somewhere. It doesn't make any more sense to hear Middle-eastern instruments in Mordor's music, but somehow it just feels right. I suspect hearing a Victorian harpsichord or piano wouldn't feel right in Hobbiton, though.... It's all about the mismash of cultures to create something new.
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The Preciousss
Nevrast
Nov 8 2012, 8:43am
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sometimes I wonder if Shelob's appetite is Christopher Tolkien...
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