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Peter Jackson reveals running time
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Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 24 2012, 10:54am

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Peter Jackson reveals running time Can't Post

I'll let you see for yourself Smile

http://www.empireonline.com/.../story.asp?NID=35587


Nine Finger Frodo
The Shire


Oct 24 2012, 11:01am

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Great [In reply to] Can't Post

to hear this first film will be around 160 minutes. The EE will probably end up being around 190-200 minutes.
I do also think PJ will use more material as we get along this trilogy, just as with LOTR. There and Back Again could easily become a 4 hour EE then.

Stairs of Cirith Ungol


Welsh hero
Gondor


Oct 24 2012, 11:33am

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About as long as I expected when I heard it's becoming a trilogy [In reply to] Can't Post

but it does make me think, how long was the cut that made PJ think "This should be a trilogy"

-Irfon

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MartyB
Rivendell


Oct 24 2012, 11:52am

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Good... [In reply to] Can't Post

Pleased to hear it's long. :) Was worried for a while that WB were doing a cash grab.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 24 2012, 12:08pm

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Great to finally see it confirmed! [In reply to] Can't Post

So around 2 hours 40 minutes is without the credits. Nice length! I was one of those fearing that the change from 2 to 3 films might result in shorter movies.


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 24 2012, 12:14pm

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Nice to see it confirmed! [In reply to] Can't Post

Though he did say: "at the moment"! It could change. Cool

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 24 2012, 12:22pm

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This interview was probably done a couple of weeks ago [In reply to] Can't Post

So the 2h44m reported by Norwegian cinemas could be more accurate.


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 24 2012, 12:51pm

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The 170 minute report [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe including the credits (?), would justify Peter Jackson first saying that it would be ten minutes shorter than FOTR, then saying that FOTR was 3 hours, and then saying this is 2 hours and 40 minutes. Wink


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 24 2012, 12:51pm

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Or the 2h50m subsequently "confirmed" by the Russian distributor // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


DwellerInDale
Rohan


Oct 24 2012, 2:23pm

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So, is their information on content woefully out of date, or... [In reply to] Can't Post

...is there still a glimmer of hope for Mirkwood? The article reads:

Finally, if you're curious about what to expect from all 160-odd minutes of Hobbity goodness, take a look at the extended scroll poster, the Lego sets ...

...both of which feature scenes that were supposedly cut and postponed until DOS.

Don't mess with my favorite female elf.



Welsh hero
Gondor


Oct 24 2012, 2:27pm

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The scroll was posted on their site in July// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 24 2012, 4:21pm

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Excellent [In reply to] Can't Post

As expected.


WhiskFishercat
Bree


Oct 24 2012, 4:27pm

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perfect [In reply to] Can't Post

I was hoping for another long trip to middle earth. yay!


Durin's Folk
The Shire


Oct 24 2012, 5:18pm

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The longer, the better! [In reply to] Can't Post

am I right ladies?

"But a small dark figure that none had observed sprang out of the shadows and gave a hoarse shout: 'Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-męnu!' An axe swung and swept back. Two Orcs fell headless. The rest fled."


Arandir
Gondor


Oct 24 2012, 5:46pm

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Hahaha! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 24 2012, 5:48pm

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So AUJ was originally around 5 hours? [In reply to] Can't Post

I really hope this works out...there's a reason they usually don't include everything they've shot.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Oct 24 2012, 5:58pm

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Almost everyone here would say no. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


sycorax82
Rohan

Oct 24 2012, 6:29pm

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I still don't get how you only make it to the Eagles in 160 minutes! [In reply to] Can't Post

Lots of Rivendell dialogue scenes, complete with flashbacks, maybe...

Parts from the book are -

Shire
Trolls
Rivendell
Mountains
Goblin Town
Wargs

Extra material could amount to -

Frodo/Bilbo
Smaug/Erebor/Dale flashback
Gandald/Radagast/Morgul-blade
Gandalf/Dol-Guldur
Azog flashback
White Council meeting

This is going to amount to a LOT of talking and not much action. Of course, some of the flashbacks, if they happen, will contain action, though only briefly.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 24 2012, 6:35pm

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I doubt it's gonna be a lot of talking. [In reply to] Can't Post

I just recently relistened the LOTR commentaries. They made the point a lot of times how they needed the story to get going, to not linger too long.


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 24 2012, 6:35pm

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FOTR "action" vs AUJ "action" [In reply to] Can't Post

FOTR vs AUJ

Prologue - Dwarven flashback (attack of Smaug or Azanulbizar)
Weathertop - Troll scene
Watcher in the Water - Stone Giants
Moria - Gollum & Goblin Town
Amon Hen - Out of the Frying Pan

Seems about equal to me?

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Escapist
Gondor


Oct 24 2012, 6:36pm

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They still cut almost half. [In reply to] Can't Post

This sounds reasonable.


Escapist
Gondor


Oct 24 2012, 6:47pm

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I agree. [In reply to] Can't Post

There are also the non-action parts which are reasonably comparable>>>

Prologue - Dwarven flashback (attack of Smaug or Azanulbizar)
>>>Bilbo's Birthday / unexpected party
Weathertop - Troll scene
>>>Rivendell / Rivendell
Watcher in the Water - Stone Giants
Moria - Gollum & Goblin Town
>>>Lorien / (this is probably where some of those 20 minutes less of movie comes in ... roughly ...)
Amon Hen - Out of the Frying Pan

So maybe there is actually less talking and more action - and the talking is probably more hilarious and less dramatic. Probably no one dies.
This is something that will make some people like it better than LOTR and others less ... just like comparing the books.



DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 24 2012, 6:50pm

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Thank you for filling in the gaps :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

I wonder if TH version of Lorien is Scene 88?

That would be another action sequence.

Smile

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FlyingSerkis
Rivendell

Oct 24 2012, 7:33pm

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Isn't there a lot more between Bilbo's birthday and Weathertop [In reply to] Can't Post

than between Unexpected Party and the trolls?


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 24 2012, 7:36pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

But my guess is that PJ will fill that in with some additional stuff. We already know, for example, that he has added a scene where Gandalf describes a bet the dwarves made about whether or not Bilbo would show up. My guess is that we will get character-building scenes like that, and more, along the road.

In fact, this is one aspect that makes me very happy about the three-film decision. There is a lot more time to linger in places, rather than hop around like a video game.


(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Oct 24 2012, 7:38pm)

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