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Jim Beaver confirms cameo in 'The Hobbit'
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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 1:32pm

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Jim Beaver confirms cameo in 'The Hobbit' Can't Post

According to his twitter:


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Jim Beaver ‏@jumblejim
Wonderful time in New Zealand. Got invited to do a cameo in The Hobbit. Wait till you see my makeup! Hope you recognize me. Way fun!


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I have no idea who he is.

Does this mean they're still filming?

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Magpie
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 1:37pm

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wikipedia says: [In reply to] Can't Post

James Norman "Jim" Beaver, Jr. is an American stage, film, and television actor, playwright, screenwriter, and film historian

...and I don't know who he is. (and I'm in the US)

I take that back. I didn't recognize the name nor the pic of him that was on the main google search hits page.

But I know him from Deadwood and Justified. He's also in Supernatural and was on the soap opera, Days of Our Lives.

In Deadwood, he played the prospector who married Alma Garret.


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Carne
Dor-Lomin

Oct 21 2012, 1:39pm

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According to Wikipedia: [In reply to] Can't Post


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an American stage, film, and television actor, playwright, screenwriter, and film historian. He is perhaps most familiar to worldwide audiences as the gruff but tenderhearted prospector Whitney Ellsworth on the HBO Western drama series Deadwood, a starring role which brought him acclaim and a Screen Actors Guild Awards nomination for Ensemble Acting after three decades of supporting work in films and TV.


Never heard of him.

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Looking him up on IMDb I recognize him as the gun dealer in Breaking Bad.

This is most likely a film 2 or 3 cameo.


(This post was edited by Carne on Oct 21 2012, 1:44pm)


gar-mogoth
Lindon

Oct 21 2012, 1:43pm

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Beaver [In reply to] Can't Post

I know him, he plays Bobby in Supernatural. But i wonder who will he be in Hobbit? Maybe some dwarf...


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 1:52pm

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He must be known to PJ and the production [In reply to] Can't Post

I've googled him too, but I haven't watched anything he's been in.

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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 1:53pm

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Do you think it's recent filming then? [In reply to] Can't Post

Or a couple of months ago?

I thought they were saving the rest of filming until next year.

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Magpie
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 1:55pm

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I think Deadwood is on of the top 5 tv shows I've seen in my life [In reply to] Can't Post

... although there are a lot of critically acclaimed shows I haven't seen.

I think Jim did a good job with his character.

I don't remember him quite as much from Justified.


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Carne
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Oct 21 2012, 2:20pm

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Going by his Twitter feed I'd say recently [In reply to] Can't Post

Looks like he was vacationing in NZ/promoting his book.

Might have just been something quick in front of a green screen.


dalecooper
Ossiriand

Oct 21 2012, 3:25pm

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I love the guy. [In reply to] Can't Post

He was fantastic in Deadwood, a very salt-of-the-earth character with a certain dwarvishness (after all he was a seeker of gold and a bit of a miner, and he never was without his beard!) and a good heart. One of the strongest actors on a cast full of them. He's had less significant parts in Justified and Breaking Bad, two other shows that I love. I think he'll be a good fit for Middle Earth - honestly I could see him in a bigger part as a dwarf or man of Laketown, but a cameo will do nicely.


burgahobbit
Nargothrond


Oct 21 2012, 3:28pm

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Yes good point [In reply to] Can't Post

Could be a green screen cameo.


macfalk
Doriath


Oct 21 2012, 5:08pm

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Omg, Ellsworth! [In reply to] Can't Post

I loved him in Deadwood - can't wait to see Mr.Ellsworth appear in TH, he has a dwarven quality to his face I think.

Agreed with magpie btw.



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Sunflower
Doriath

Oct 21 2012, 6:27pm

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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

though anytime I read any reference to Deadwood, I can't help but remember the mind-numbing level of profanity from that show. Even more than the usual HBO quota. When the producers set out to depict "the real rawness and authenticity of life in a frontier mining town" ha, they weren't kdding.Crazy When we got to Swerengen's kidney stone surgery, I remember my stomach started doing the wobblies and I turned a slight shade of green. Only the fact that I loved the good Doctor, one of my favorite characters (and fellow LOTR alumnus!) kept me watching. I felt so sorry for him--and boy, what a good job Brad Dourif did....he should have won an Emmy!

He'll probably show up in Laketown in some way. Maybe as one of the slimy henchmen of the Mayor. Can't wait.


Carne
Dor-Lomin

Oct 21 2012, 6:32pm

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I'm leaning towards a dwarf [In reply to] Can't Post

Considering his stocky build and him writing "Wait till you see my makeup! Hope you recognize me."


macfalk
Doriath


Oct 21 2012, 6:45pm

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I wholeheartedly agree - Brad Dourif is just fantastic and deserves more recognition. Doc Cochran was my favourite character in Deadwood, although as most character's in that series, did not get the ending it deserved (Doc's character arc in season 3 is a huge mystery for one thing. It was cancelled way too soon.

As for the profanity, it took me quite some time to get used to it, and I am quite used to it to a certain degree seeing as my favourite shows are HBO's two other flagships, Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones. Almost, the exception being Calamity Jane - ugh, my least favourite character Deadwood, and the gratuitous profanity didn't help when she opened her mouth, way too much screentime as well.



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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 7:23pm

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Maybe a female dwarf ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Dor-Lomin


Oct 21 2012, 7:27pm

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He could be doing his cameo as PJ [In reply to] Can't Post

A cameo in a cameoTongue

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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 9:25pm

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Out of interest... [In reply to] Can't Post

Who is more "famous" (or well known) in the US - Beaver and Colbert?

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Aragorn the Elfstone
Dor-Lomin


Oct 21 2012, 9:43pm

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Colbert, for sure... [In reply to] Can't Post

Jim Beaver's an excellent character actor, but certainly under the radar for most. Stephen Colbert, on the other hand, is a very popular comedian with a lot of exposure.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Doriath

Oct 21 2012, 9:47pm

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That's like asking which is worth more, [In reply to] Can't Post

a penny or a $100 bill.

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Sunflower
Doriath

Oct 21 2012, 10:12pm

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and what is really interesting is, even though he's had a long and storied career, what probably got him cast in Deadwood is his history of roles in Westerns--namely, he had a big role in Heaven's Gate. That's right, the mother of all film flops (1980). Don't know who he played (why can you never find a copy of Heaven's Gate anywhere? Apparently some have been able to see it).
There's a fascinating documentary on the making of Heaven's Gate called "Final Cut: The Making And Unmaking of Heaven's Gate." You can find it on YouTube. He gets a lot of interview time.
(and Fun Fact: His daughter has a cameo in a couple of the later episodes of Deadwood--she plays one of the prostitutes working at the new establishment that blonde girl opens up, forgot her name (the one who leaves to become her own Madam.) it's really sweet--she looks just like him.

As for Calamity Jane--I agree, while her profanity is wearying after a while, if you listen to the DVD commentaries, you'll find that she was accurately portrayed. She was a fascinating person: that dual nature of fierceness and wildness and on the other hand, motherliness and compassion was real. She really dressed like that, in life she wasn't even as pretty as she was on TV, and her language and manners--one of the quotes I remember from the commentary was something to the effect that, according to eyewitnesses at the time, whenever she walked into a bar, the most low-life and hard-bitten characters would scurry out, b/c she was just enough to knock anyone out (and I'm not talking just with her fists, though she could if she wanted to)--she was just the most "raw" character you would ever want to meet. BUT..at the same time..she got her name "Calamity Jane" b/c whever here was a big "calamity", such as the smallpox epidemic in Deadwood, she'd show up to nurse and help the afflicted and downtrodden in any way she could. She was just this strange mixture of Hellcat Maggie from "Gangs of New York", and Florence Nightengale. The scenes depicting her, um, "nursing" the sick in the "pest house" are pretty much authentic.Tongue She was a nurse during that. And she was in love with Wild Bill Hickok as well--an unrequited romance though. When she died she was buried next to him. It's a big tourist attraction today apprently. You can't make this stuff up...


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Magpie
Elvenhome


Oct 21 2012, 11:47pm

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I had seen Deadwood and like the character that Beaver played a lot [In reply to] Can't Post

and I didn't recognize his name.

Colbert, for sure.


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Magpie
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Oct 22 2012, 1:46am

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and I should add... [In reply to] Can't Post

that we don't get cable and I have never seen Colbert's show! :-)

And I still know him 'better' than Beaver.


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DarkJackal
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Oct 22 2012, 2:15am

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True story: Brad Dourif=the reason TTT is my fav out of the trilogy // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 22 2012, 7:12am

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Only if you know who they are ;-) [In reply to] Can't Post

Never heard of them in my life!

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DwellerInDale
Nargothrond


Oct 22 2012, 10:52am

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I may have found his cameo... [In reply to] Can't Post

...remember the "dwarf miner" at 12:15-12:17 of vlog #6, the one with the 2-candles hat? Looks just like him. Another example of typecasting perhaps?
See the attached photos for comparison-- the eyes look the same to me.

Don't mess with my favorite female elf.

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